About eight months in, I was looking for part-time work in an ER to help pay off my student loans. Everyone said just graduate, wait till you start working, it will pass. WebIm tired of being woken up in the middle of the night when Im on call. sometimes even moving within a state is a big change. NYC sucks overall for PAs due to saturation but in upstate NY pas run ERs with no doc in hous I have been considering moving to a teaching hospital. I then go talk with and examine the patient in the ED. Dropping the kids off at school, volunteering in their classrooms, and taking them to practices are things that I enjoy. Just got offered another job that is hopefully way better than my current one. But in many circumstances, that's fine. We discuss everything from interesting patient cases to stories about our kids to our favorite recipes. Learn some professionalism; just because it sucks in New York doesn't mean it will suck elsewhere. Weiter zum Hauptinhalt LinkedIn. Im afraid of starting out in the bottom again. WebHate being a medical assistant. For my first job out of PA school, I found a position in oncology and was able to stay in Pittsburgh. Fact is, the world doesn't need a ton of House MD's, certainly not in primary care where 90-95% of what we see is obvious and our boards beat the other 5-10% to death. All Rights Reserved. I applaud you for your outspoken opinion on career satisfaction. I feel that many applicants and the public at whole are oblivious to the dark side I've been practicing for 2 years, which isn't long, but my general impression is that medicine is not the glorified bundle of money and satisfaction it's made out to be. If I got stuck on something, I'd check the approach pathways out to see where the next fork would take meI still get my updated book each year. WebAnswer (1 of 2): No. Being a major research facility, the physicians have many other obligations outside of patient care. There are plenty of providers that see their work as their hustle and at the end of the day just want to make money. Some of those then fall into the algorithm model of care, which is more NP than PA, and its a recipe for disaster. You sound pretty run down and stressed. Have you considered leaving your state for one that is more PA friendly? I know it's hard to change your li Good luck to you! Still, moving forward feels a heck of a lot better than cursing the darkness and watching the clock tick. AAPA is the national organization that advocates for all PAs and provides tools to improve PA practice and patient care. They were summa cum laudes and valedictorians too. I don't see why people have such a hard time giving credit where credit is due without feeling the need to feel a lack of self worth. Unfortunately, the "system" doesn't afford me that opportunity. Though I enjoyed it, I spent a fair amount of time saying, "Well, this is how M.D. I am doing everything I can every day to prepare and am hoping for the best - I still would choose this route vs becoming a doc when I'm 40, though I have definitely considered it. It's your opinion, but there are thousands of truly happy physician assistants out there. It is just disheartening and frustrating when my patients have functional/unexplained/vague symptoms that I can't really help or fix. WebIf you hate it because of the actual work, that is something completely different. Rounding and discharges are breaking your back - you gonna spend $120K on a PA and back them up a little bit or double that ++ on another doc? Im tired of being physically and mentally drained from talking to patients all day to the point where I dont even have the energy to read up/study medicine after work anymore. 14,595 satisfied customers. (shrug) You don't need an MD to do MOST of what primary care does. I have no doubt many are much smarter than me. It's your life and the clock keeps on ticking. Even better than our working relationship with our physicians is the relationship we have with our APP co-workers. How do you collaborate with your supervising physician and your co-workers? A few years ago, a good friend (and PA colleague) somehow managed to quit and move out of town, on to a new adventure. I "like" the specialty I'm in. Yes, the doctor is more prestigious and should know more. Yes it will be a longer path and a harder one, but it will end. Being a major research facility, the physicians have many other obligations outside of patient care. Which, I'm sure, was a delight for everyone around me. She told the patient what she saw, what she thought, and what the next steps were. Being is the vast affirmative, excluding negation, self-balanced, and swallowing up all relations, parts, and times within itself. With the unpredictability of the hospital, getting out on time doesnt always happen, but thats expected. Indeed, estimates from the Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) indicate that the U.S. could face a shortfall of between 21,000 and 55,000 primary care doctors by 2023. What is scheduling like at your hospital? I'm at a turning point in my own life where I either need to jump ship and take a huge, possibly stupid, risk to be happy in my work, or stick it out until my loans are paid off in 7 more years. JP: I try to take a standardized approach to evaluating patients. Realize that this is a normal feeling. Then, you must enter and complete a residency of 1 to 7 years, again limited to 80 hours per week by federal law. If you decide to go to PA school and become a PA you'll find out just what I'm talking about. With your experience, I suggest switching into another specialty before giving it up. You know they've taught apes to sign too? I am able to practice medicine within a multidisciplinary team where I consult with my supervising physicians daily. I find this tends to be an opinion more so of older physicians. I like to spend time with patients. If you're a new grad. Ted James MD, MHCM Suche erweitern. I've been a PA for 17 years and I can count on one hand (ok maybe two) the number of days my job produced a level of satisfaction, enjoyment, or happiness. I'm Urology. That's a facetious comment btw. Everyone doubts their decisions. Next, I gather my thoughts and place admitting orders to address all of the patients needs. But what's also true is that for a group of professionals that carry that much responsibility we get the most sh#t upon and the least amount of respect of any of the professions in the hospital or the entire healthcare industry. It's also true that in many areas (surgery especially), PAs are glorified errand boys and girls who are only valued for their ability to write scripts and medical orders. We pride ourselves on providing comprehensive care to our patients while they are in the hospital. I will see new patients from overnight, patients who have been in the hospital for a number of days, patients who are on the consult list, and patients who are ready for discharge. Docs think in algorhythms too - usuallyx+y=z, but if it ends up as e, go to a, b, c, or d and reset based on thatresult. As I've gotten older though, I've come to realize that some problems will take a lot longer to solve and new ones will keep cropping up. I agree. You are allotted five hours to complete five 60-question sections. He has a private practice, just him and 2 MAs. By continuing your use of this website, you consent to this use of cookies. However, I do respect the insight and appreciate the candid discussion. I never even would interact with doctors and I wasn't learning any good medicine. I guess they are equivalent too according to your 0.02. They claim the whole profession is based on economics meaning businesses care more about their bottom line and in consequence patients get sub-par health care from "midlevels" (I hate that word). I am in my FM rotation with a DO who precepts med students year-round but we had a cancellation in my original site and he agreed to take me. I was talking with several doctors recently who I interact with on ocassion. But they need look in the mirror and stop checking boxes. Feeling valued by those you work with and those you serve. A long one too. I can only imagine what that will be like. Again, if you're thinking of PA school Take my advice go to medical school. This isn't House. detman We go in liking the idea of being flexible and having the ability to move among the specialties. Before you jump into becoming a physician assistant (or a physician, for that matter), know that it will sometimes ask things from you even when you dont have them to spare. Now, there is no black & white. Powered by Invision Community, Welcome to the Physician Assistant Forum! I also knew that the likelihood of me accepting another position while I was still in a job I enjoyed so much was nearly zero. I was feeling drained and hated my job. I wanted a role where I could be that confident in my skills. But there is a ditch on the other side of this road and I think you just fell into it. I hate the stress involved. I had similar feelings throughout school and just recently graduated. The learning curve for the younger PAs now is huge because many do not have the patient care experience. If we could work from the comforts of our home, I bet the quality of life would go up significantly. I found the one during the spring of my clinical year. Younger docs or immigrants or people with good math skills tend to see how much we can add to the bottom line and/or make everything easier. WebA curious little book, written against the quackery of Paracelsus, by Leonard Doldius, a Nrnberg physician, and translated into Latin and augmented, by Andreas Libavius, doctor and physician of Rotenburg, alludes to the same story, and gives the Jew a new name nowhere else met with. Thank you for your post. Im hoping it gets better because at this point I have no other options. We are a close cohesive group of APPs. We love PAs and we love working with them. For those of you who are head over heels in love with your current position, be thankful. Are they going to lecture either one how worthless they are too? They usually believe things that are demonstrated with rational data, and as a result, they tend to collect a lot of data before making decisions. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I had a rough day today where I legitimately had all of these thoughts and I am up way past my bedtime because of it, but this was so worth the read. What no one tells you about moving to Texas is that it's a trap. Beyond the number of PAs, I also had a lot of colleagues that were in the same boat as me. Doctors suspect a power grab : Shots - Health News PAs say the new title would clarify that they work in a team and don't require She said the diagnosis did not match the CT images. Create a free account to read more stories, or become a member for more access to exclusive benefits! These are not easy choices and there can be substantial obstacles to overcome. Other than that, I dont see how you use your degree for anything else. Glad you're in a better spot! Hindsight is 20/20. Jobs are out there that will afford you the respect, autonomy, and fulfillment that you seek. I feel like my life is on auto auto-pilot, only looking forward until I get home and until my next day off/vacation and I dont think I want to live this way. Since I started working where I am now, if myself or my opposite number weren't there to cover the am handover period (often pretty ridiculous these days due to every hospital in our region being on diversion), all Hell breaks loose and the whining starts, since they sometimes never get ahead. Something was off. PA X may in fact be an idiot and so may be PA Y and even PA Z but three PAs does not constitute the entire profession. But like others have said, we get to help people on a daily basis. But a lot of general medical specialties seem to offer more autonomy. People in both roles complete a bachelor's degree in pre-med or a similar field, such as biology, nutrition, public health or biochemistry. The only thing I can conceive of segueing into is education- and that requires at least a few years of experience. 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