Wasted opportunity. This troll always posts in any thread related to soap operas about the Lesbians and Other Old Bags of Proctor and Gamble soaps. Bev wouldve hated the last decade of GL. "JANE CAMERON" AND "ACTRESS" SHOULD NOT BE IN THE SAME FUCKING SENTENCE! [quote] No way. I have zero recollection of the scene I read with her. I watched DOOL for a while when she was on there and she didn't bug me as much in that role. No one would hire her. She also appeared on the NBC interview program Here's Hollywood. (Photo by Charley Gallay/Getty Images for TWC), CANNES, FRANCE - MAY 12: Director Jodie Foster attends the "Money Monster" Photocall during the 69th annual Cannes Film Festival on May 12, 2016 in Cannes, France. Yawn. She hit me in the head with a fondue pot, r159. I've always confused her with Joyce Van Patten. I doubt she ever worked again. Maureen WAS boring so the focus groups got it right. Didnt Connie push for a story where Clarice falls in love with Ada? But most of the entertainers were African-American and featured some of the best entertainers of the time such as Lena Horne, the Nicholas Brothers, Ethel Waters, and Cab Calloway. Heres the thing. She is best known for her long-running role as Ada Lucas Hobson on the daytime soap opera Another World, which she played from 1967 until shortly before her death in 1993. Why didn't the studios insist she get into shape? whatever happened to actress constance fordhow many times is love mentioned in 1 john Posted on May 23, 2022 by 0 . While many fans recognize Constance Towers as vengeful Helena Cassadine on "General Hospital," the statuesque blonde originally lassoed in fame with two John Ford Westerns, "The Horse . Vetsoapfan said hes not going to watch the Locher Room interview with JFP!!!! She was slimmed down at the time and looks great in the early 1960's fashions, my favorite era. Constance's immediate relatives including parents, siblings, partnerships and children in the Ford family tree. There were no other matriarchs quite like Ada on the other shows. It didn't help that a show like Generations, which really had potential to be good, was just plain awful and tried to coast on the novelty of having a black family as one of the key families, but that wasn't enough to make up for the amateurish writing. Her other Broadway credits included "See the Jaguar" with James Dean, "Say Darling," "Golden Fleecing" and "Nobody Loves an Albatross" with Robert Preston. I and forgotten that Taylor Miller was on AW. She was last seen at the PA Horror Con and Film Festival in 2022 . That was some good shit. Now thats lesbian power. Ada and Mary always maintained their friendship, which baffled Harding Lemay. You've been missed! Santa Barbara was a niche soap that was never going to appeal to a mass audience. I don't think so. People have attributed it to its competitors GH and to a lesser extent GL, being on fire; the tanking of the rest of the daytime lineup and the prime-time lineup; the expansion to 90 minutes; the switch to more melodramatic plots. ! I never considered him that good of an actor. She is also well-known for appearing in nearly two dozen movies from 1956 to 1974, with her most noteworthy role . We will update Constance Ford's Height, weight, Body Measurements, Eye Color, Hair Color, Shoe & Dress size soon as possible. To me, the one thing the show needed during this period was a couple of older leading men who could serve as love interests to the great actresses on the show at the time. In 1954, she made her soap-opera debut as Lynn Sherwood on Woman With A Past on CBS. Method acting? View popular celebrities life details, birth signs and real ages. [quote]But why AW purposely let go of Beverly Penberthy, I'll never understand. Photos, memories, family stories & discoveries are unique to you, and only you can control. In one of the Locher Room broadcasts, Maeve said that Kathleen always had her in stitches, calling her one of the funniest women she ever knew. The more I see of Carmen Duncan's work the more I appreciate it. - IMDb Mini Biography By: Mikado Hello. Ol' Connie is looking everywhere BUT at the actress playing her daughter (who looks young enough to be her granddaughter). But for three brief periods of freedom, he . I don't know about "overacting" as much as, she didn't always seem to modulate her film or stage technique for TV. Born: July 1, 1923, The Bronx, New York, NY. What kind of "test" did Connie have the young girls pass? Previously, hydrogen bombs had only been tested on the ground. Just because Stuart couldnt get another job so she begged for her old job back. It had everything else fat just for him: Fat Reva, Fat Ashlee, Fat Selena, Fat Alex, Fat Olivia, Fat Rick (who he couldnt stand because they wouldnt call him Fred), Fat Claire Labine, Fat Rauch, Fat doorways, Fat Alan, Fat Billy, Fat Doris, Fat Buzz. Whos the richest Soap Opera Actress in the world. Fans wanted the old Irisconniving, bitchy, and vengeful. Campion Murphy. If you always greeted her that way, R337, Ada did not have to be told of your proclivities, preferences, or peculiarities. Backstage afterward, I asked Cyndi about the Broadway musical shes writing based on Working Girl and she said its coming along; the rights have been attained. Jeff Phillips who played Matt Cory for six months is now a personal trainer - and it shows. Would old-time viewers have taken offense at dropping the "The"? I thought she was pretty and sophisticated, and the show dressed her so nice. He asked me these stock questions. She knew. I'll never forget Connie playing Ada's reaction to Steve's death. Constance was the mother of three children, Peter Plant (a businessman) and Gyl Roland (an actress and image consultant) and Lorinda Roland (a sculptress). Always screaming at everyone on AW. There's more acting there in that one line than goddam Meryl Streep did in her whole life. Did it have anything to do with muff diving? The days were long at the AW studio in Brooklyn. Kristin Nelson. I recall him being paired with Pat before Bev P. was let go, and they hinted at something between him and Donna. I, Scoche Marin, play the most prolific Katherine Chancellor. She sounds so tough. In Rome Adventure (1962), she played Daisy Bronson, owner of a bookstore in Rome, opposite Suzanne Pleshette and Troy Donahue, being kinder to him than she had been in A Summer Place. Sandra Ferguson and Matthew Crane obviously past her test. Philece could have played a recast Nicole, but maybe even Rachels long lost sister Pam, but not Donna. Jane Cameron's final IMDB listing is 30 years old, so she clearly isn't in the business anymore. [4], Ford never publicly dated, married, or had children, which fueled rumors that she was a lesbian. But she's one of those no nonsense women who expected everybody to be ready when she is, and would really lay into you if you didn't know what you were doing. GET THE FUCKING CONVERSATION BACK TO ME! She seems to lcak the sultriness of Dorothy Malone. This is the one soap my grandmother (a Harvard grad) got hooked on. Birthday: Jul 1, 1923. The Biography piece is collaborative, where we work together to present the facts. Not everyone, r419. Snicker. If you have some time today watch this. "The Boyfriend Part 2" "This is the kind of discussion you don't see on TV," noted David. Constance Ford began her career in television in the 1950s, performing in live television dramas on Studio One in Hollywood (1948), Armstrong Circle Theatre (1950), Goodyear Playhouse (1951), and other acclaimed series, and playing recurring characters in four afternoon serials; "Rose Peabody" in Search for Tomorrow (1951), "Lynn Sherwood" in Woman with a Past (1954), "Eve Morris" in The Edge of Night (1956) and "Ada Davis Downs Hobson" in Another World (1964). How many times will you ask that question, Gregg? There are very few episodes with Olive still in existance. Saw carpet muncher Irene Daily on the Amityville Horror this morning. Ironically, both her character and Irene Dailey's Pamela Stewart stabbed their victims. Yum yum yum yum! The initials "G.I." Were Connie and Elaine scissor sisters? American actress Diane McBain, circa 1970. . Also, she did have a very nice relationship Vicky Wyndham. Philece didnt have that snarky, bitchy edge to her that Anna Stuart had. [quote]Her stint was 4 years long and he couldnt have known that Doug Watson was going to die. All this happened before the actress won her breakout role opposite Harrison Ford in 1985 Amish thriller 'Witness' (above) and before she was cast as Charlie Blackwood, the teacher who trains . And then after blowing a hole in the show by taking out its matriarch, the show failed to fill it appropriately with a new matriarch. Culture TV Suicide Celebrities. For one, like her character Carmen . I haven't found anything to complain about. AWT is a MUCH better abbreviation! Owned by a bootlegger and gangster, it was a 700 seat speakeasy that catered to a "white only" clientele. Now, someone like Marilyn Chris or Norma Connelly, on the other hand, would've been perfect. I think they'd be better off working out their family issues with a therapist than clinging to these dead and buried shows. The Matthews family had a brief return in the late '80s with Russ, Liz, and Olivia. Ford seemed like she was no stranger to bellowing the phrase, 'Suck my dick' in her off-screen life. Not classy. Kibbee was too patrician to play working class Ada's sister. His motivation made zero sense with the Stuart in the role. Im not including newscasters and Im also omitting people who identify as bisexuals or sexually fluid (though I am included some semi-closeted icons). Again, where the fuck was Connie's luxe condo? When premiering Texas at one hour didn't work, they should have realized the 60 minutes was part of the problem and premiered Santa Barbara at 30 minutes. Was it the early 80s? Some people can't handle that and would consider it offensive, but she knew it was a tough business, and why would she waste her time on younger actors who wouldn't be around for more than their 13 week cycle. Watching the Sharly storyline develop is so good. Lois also wrote some scripts for "Capitol" when Henry's laser was the head writer. Congrats on 50 years of perseverance and triumph. I made ten straight pictures with her and each one was a holiday.") In a poll held by Moving Picture World in 1921, Norma was voted the most popular actress with Constance in the number two spot-both beating Mary Pickford, who took third. Wooden, shrill and reading cue cards (badly). Even if there *were* still NYC based soaps today, I doubt many of the actors would be able to afford an apartment with a big terrace like that. She was private. It took years for them finally to bring in Aunt Meta. Someone must know the woman at 2:00. I had two VCRs. Please don't be a stranger to these P&G threads. She was also very good in an episode of "The Twilight Zone" called "Uncle Simon" opposite Cedric Hardwicke: What kind of acting style does she use? What killed soaps in the long run was expanding them to an Hour - they just wind up padding much of the show at double the cost. Constance Wu is reintroducing herself after a few years out of the Hollywood spotlight -- and what she is sharing is deeply personal. I know they named baby Nancy after her. Mary Jane Croft. She probably enjoyed the gig and the steady check. Constance Fords mothers name is unknown at this time and her fathers name is under review. And it is now harder to sell a one hour show internationally. When she was publicly holding hands with actor Anne Heche that year, the media generally refused to report what was happening, stymied by what was going on right up in their grills. Otherwise, you'll just have to find some other site [quote]R277 Santa Barbara was a niche soap that was never going to appeal to a mass audience. [quote]It was always so strange for me when Victoria Wyndham later played Rachel as saintly. On the one hour debate, I believe that is was especially foolhardy (and arrogant) for NBC to DEBUT it's new soaps at 60 minutes. She showed up to the AW studio on time and was 100% prepared. Jesus, Connie is awful in the clip at R231, also. Her stint was 4 years long and he couldnt have known that Doug Watson was going to die. My aunt Bev always thought she was 10 years older than what she said she was. 29 death records, 32 followers 14.9k+ favorites. Generation. Sassiness personified, Wanda has always been a scream in film comedies, animated films, and TV shows from Curb Your Enthusiasm to Blackish. That was my perception anyway, rewatching those early scenes with Cecile working at Brava and manipulating Pat. Six months into the show two of the core families were all written out. There were story possibilities with Ed, Michelle, the other Bauers and Reardons, Vanessa, Holly, Lillianhell Claire, Rita, and on and on. I guess its a cultural thing.. Taking note of another judge, Mary J. Blige, Billy said, I tried to get that asymmetrical Mary J. Blige bob that goes over one eye, but I couldnt get my wig person to do it fast enough! As wonderfully extra looks and movements filled categories like Head To Toe and Move To The Groove, Billy made remarks like Giving us neon pickle juice realness! and Are you ready for the next category? That really was unfair. She is not dating anyone. I've been down the rabbit hole rewatching Donna Swajeski episodes of AW. Joann Willette is an American actress from Lewiston, Maine. Shows need time to get their footing and develop a voice. Remember that Anna Banana was besties with pussy licker Geri Court. Always a variant of these posts, over and over and over again. (Mark Von Holden/Mark Von Holden/Invision/AP) Listen It's solid soap opera. Yes, R130, especially Constance Towers' signature is on it. Well, now Im giving the ladies their turn. She should have won the Oscar. I thought it had good demos, but I guess that wasn't the case since NBC kept playing around with the tone and then finally canceled it. Bev Penberthy said that Hugh Marlowe, who was forever flubbing his lines, only took the AW gig to support his late-in-life child. P&G should've moved her to SFT to play Stephanie after Marie Cheatham exited. The rapid decline in viewership was pretty remarkable. Did either of them ever work again? With a vengeance. Be sensitive. Here are the 15 women whove most screamed lesbian while carving out unique and influential careers in the biz. I think Eileen Fulton, Linda Dano, and a lot of those types had great apartments. I dont have favorites, I dont think about actors, she just seemed to me good. Carl menaced Mac, Rachel, Nancy, Sandy, Sally and Blaine, among others, in the 80s. The old fat perv from SON Soapsuds is hurt because Alan Locher basically told him to fuck off. Her cue card reading on AW was embarrassingly bad. Countess is currently on VH1's Reality Show "Celebrity Fit Club 3" [January 2006] 2. She did regional theater after leaving AW - and has had Broadway prior to AW. I was a big fan of that actress, Jane Cameron. It premiered when NBC's daytime lineup was tanking badly, and was just plain dull and plodding until Kobe/Long came along. Fat Bert Bauer. Vicky icky Wyndham sure was a homely gal. Even then I thought she looked more like Nancys grandmother. At one point, they tried to create a triangle with Ada, Liz and Brian which would have been funny because of his past relationship with Iris had they actually pursued it a bit more. What was THAT all about? One bright spot I remember was having Nia Long on after with Monte involved with Bridget/Dylan and a nasty racist (but good )storyline. Hitting that will make all the posts by the Soap Psycho disappear. it's one thing to lose McKinsey to Texas and then her wanting some time off and then losing her to GL. We don't have much information about She's past relationship and any previous engaged. The kind I'd call out when he was fucking me hard. Looking kind of Dorothy Malone / Martha Hyer / Lola Albright. And you could finally understand why a stud like Michael Hudson would move heaven and earth to be with her. The cause was cancer, said Murray Schapiro, her business manager. Leyla Mohammed. Jesus Christ. It's the scat, Scoche, Sappho, Soap Opera Network troll. Was Sharly during Swajeski's stint? . You love me! It also followed a shit ton of cast turnover including actresses like Sherry Stringfield, Kim Simms and La Bev leaving within weeks of each other while being involved in red hot stories. We will continue to update information on Constance Fords parents. Why isnt there more discussion about ME on this thread??? Tuc Watkins, Murray Bartlett, and Nick Scotti were pretty much fixtures on the NYC gay nightlife scene in the 90s/00s. Constance Ford was born on the 1st of July, 1923. Beverly Penberthy's nephew and others who are new to the P&G threads -- we have a resident psycho on these soap threads who likes to make nasty comments and troll the board. Britain's most notorious prisoner Charles Bronson is set to appear before a parole board next week to see if he is fit for release. R33 has an old bottle of Calgon in there, too. Her on-screen brother was played by Don Knotts. Its next Wednesday -- June 23. I mean, before our time, half hour ATWT was the # 1 soap for many, many years. Where we share as we remember & make discoveries and connect with others to help answer questions. As for the not so kind, Bette referenced Trumps nutty tweet about her by cracking, Just two weeks ago, I was a washed up psycho.' Stop hogging the attention, Linda! (Of course, looking glamorous has a great deal to do with lighting, styling + makeup, etc. I'm going to say no, since - after all these years - we've never heard any names. It will always be THE Edge of Night for me. (Photo by Christopher Polk/Getty Images for JumpLine), WASHINGTON, DC - JUNE 14: Melissa Etheridge performs at the 2018 National Geographic Awards at GWU Lisner Auditorium on June 14, 2018 in Washington, DC. [quote]On Search for Tomorrow, Ford was Rose Peterson, an employee of the mob who was hired to discredit leading character Joanne Tate. Sean Young Says Her Career Was Derailed by Ridley Scott, Oliver Stone, Warren Beatty and Others. I'm surprised Peter Simon lasted as long as he did. The two women in OP's video are such terrible actors. Texas was originally envisioned as a costume drama set during the Civil War called "Reunion". What was appealing about it? In 1968, by the time she was 45 years old, on January 31st, the North Vietnamese launched the Tet Offensive, a turning point in the Vietnam War. Don DeFore. 2023 Viacom International Inc. All Rights Reserved. The comedian complies, but eventually turns green with envy when his favorite baseball player spends more time with his ex-girlfriend than him. In the cocktail hour, I got to gasp at all the looks, spot everyone from Frank DeCaros new book, Drag: Combing Through the Big Wigs of Show Business (including myself), and hobnob with porn star turned dentist Rafael Alencar, whom I seriously told, You have to drill me! We then sat down to a $1000-a-plate fried chicken dinner, complete with tater tots, a salad in a cup, and mini muffins, and it was so delish it actually tasted like a million. If the 90-minute expansion of AW had worked, the big successful shows like GH, AMC, etc., probably would've followed suit. Well, I recovered completely, and theres something I learned from the presidents lunatic attack. 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