R143 That is fascinating about the sheriff. Not only for justice, but because that means that the sick sob who murdered those girls is off the streets. R26 the FBI are involved, yeah. Because why else would anybody pretend to be CERTAIN it's not him? Carter says a vehicle was parked at the old CPS/DCS Welfare building in Delphi on the east side of County Road 300 North, next to the Hoosier Heartland Highway between noon and 5 p.m. February 14, 2017. I remember there was a long thread (or more than one) about this when it happened. a true crime group i read 95% of the members think it's this guy. r466, r446 said "this weirdo" reset his phone the day of the murders. She once had to pull out of the production suffering from exhaustion. My conclusion is still that these people were way too obese, way too short-legged, way too short, way too fat-faced, or way too skinny in 2017 to be BG - whether OBG sketch or YBG sketch. The model's images were reportedly used without their knowledge or consent. Here was an app that allowed me to do that without having to go visit locations, he told the Indy Star. Police have other evidence that they have chosen not to share with the public. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in Hampstead, London, England. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959) and The Avengers (1961). She died on April 11, 2002 in Northport, Long Island, New York, USA. The primary focus by investigators is on the second sketch. I grew up in the Midwest and Indiana is an awful, backward place. Because I'm obsessed with this case, on the forums I read several people have had interactions with this profile and are turning info into the police. First, the family began to search. One thing Leigh Kerr said that makes sense - he was watching them through binoculars. I was sure it was Chadwell, so I dont want to get my hopes up again. The Story Of The Unsolved Delphi Murders And The Chilling Video Evidence Left Behind. One of her other prominent TV roles was around the same time, in 1961, where she played the countess in episode 6 of the TV historical adventure series SirFrancisDrake ("The English Dragon"). The Innocent Project has been successful in overturning some murder convictions, mostly because of new DNA evidence that points away from the defendant. She wasn't there, and she doesn't know. The cryptic pressers and subsequent lack of information mimics this finger-pointing tragedy to Twilight Zones The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street. The child had bite marks from his pitbull. Sometimes you may find a user who owes but that's not often and it would be small amounts. Younger guy was based on a pic from Libby's phone, And that explains when the cops said "we've changed directions and you didn't think we would", They should have released a lot more information. Anyone walking over it would be moving slow and with hesitation. Evidently even prisoners loathe child rapists/killers and they are (or were) called short eyes. The killer deserves his fate and more. Sometimes the police are lucky in their investigations and the perp caught in a timely manner. To install click the Add extension button. The jury of sex men and six women, however, accepted the pleas of Garnetts attorney and declined to sentence him to death. R68- Yes. This page will put a light upon the Delphi Lawrence bio, wiki, age, birthday, family details, affairs, controversies, caste, height, weight, rumors, lesser-known facts, and more. I'm sorry, a family member thinking someone is not the perp is only as good as having a good idea who IS. R183, I agree. R286 How did they say that? Leazenby later announced they were imposing a media blackout on possible suspects in the killings of Libby and Abby moving forward. Jerry Holeman told A&E True Crime back in February that it's standard practice for his investigators to remain mum on such key details during ongoing investigations - particularly those that are considered high-profile. A truck driver maybe or someone whose job requires travel. My impression just from the photo and his recording is that hes middle aged, has a fairly decent job, knew what he was doing and was comfortable, has pretty good taste in clothes, not a slob, people wouldnt suspect him, has a boat. tragic. His wife Cantor Cathy Lawrence confirmed the news to The Hollywood Reporter but did not specify a cause of death at the time. Tattoo could represent the killer's type of victim. I think the police probably have an idea of who it was and have much more evidence then we are aware of. I cant say theres not a threat to the community, Indiana State Police Sgt. He looked through his binoculars and saw the 2 bodies and notified LE. It was a popular local spot for photographers and nature-watchers and the girls saw that they werent alone. "To have enough presence of mind to activate the video system on her cell phone to record what we believe is criminal behavior about to occur, there is no doubt in our mind that she is a hero.". She got up and pushed at him, and he grabbed her by the throat. A witness came forward and described a car parked in a small lot near one of the trail exits for a few hours on the day of the murder. My theory is that it was catfishing through Snapchat to abuse Libby. Sadly, this will die as a cold case. R81's theory makes sense. Some features on this site require registration. . He could know the area and not be from there. What is the Delphi sheriff referring to? I think that they cracked the Atlanta Child Murders case. He was caught while abducting and trying to kill a young girl (same MO). Thats why they were killed in such a brutal way. R476 There is a 29 yr old prosecutor (or maybe it was the investigator) that brought forth the fat pedo porn guy's case. Leigh Kerr and Robert Lindsey focused on Snapchat/sexual/religious. And if more children were abused, all the more appalling, Also from reddit: YouTuber with screenshots of suspicious activity between Keegan and his dad. I was just trying to state that the FBI don't always get involved in these situations. No way. Wasn't the sister was the last person to see them and drove them there? R225 I was once a teen girl and yes you do walk just to walk sometimes. Some people think he owed a drug debt, and Libby was killed as a message to him. One of my priorities is always going out to the scene locations whether it be a homicide scene or an abduction location so I can get that three-dimensional spatial aspect. [bold]He doesn't have to be from the area.[/bold]. The killer could have used fishing line as a garrote. I don't know how to post pictures but if you look at the video when he turns his head to the left you can see a younger guy. We all are speculating because we know nothing except what has been released to the public, which is strangely very little. I experienced it and I kept a piece of the high bridge and Ill carry it with me until we find out who this is.". Not sure if same poster but another perosn said that the audio after the down the hill line was the girls screaming, which chilled me. I thought they got the guy - he is in jail currently but was free when those poor kids were done in. And the dog. There is a new sketch of BG in which he looks much younger. I was recently educated on this point by someone who knows more about True Crime than I do. The day the girls went missing, there were dozens of people looking for them. He said he remains hopeful there will soon come a break and justice for Abby and Libby. Something not a lot of people get is that the man in the video was walking like an old guy because it was a fairly dangerous bridge with rotting wood, so you'd have to carefully step on each plank and make sure it wasn't a rotted one too. I couldnt help but be drawn but the sheriffs face/expressions and it did occur to me that he resembled the Bridge Guy. So far, no additional information has been released and Indiana State Police have still not identified the vehicle or a possible person who may have been driving it. The police did say they had a good idea of who had committed the crime and were waiting for him to slip up as it was just a matter of time. "Following a post-mortem this morning it was established she died of natural R42 Feb 15 is a Monday, not Saturday, apologies (again). Carter also said because they know where the man was walking on the bridge his walk is not natural because of the spacing between the ties and the deterioration in that area of the bridge. That thread was very interesting. You think they're completely different, but he's got the eyes and lips of one and the nose of the other. The guy in the video is way older. So were trying to keep the details close to our vests.. I just read the link in R288 and hes a Trump supporter lol. The cops need to release more of the recording, unedited. His father, Defields Lawrence, had died in 2001. The walkway they crossed was pretty damaged and he must have had prior experience of walking it, as he crossed it pretty quickly. Some features on this site require a subscription. I have always thought that the girls were catfished. Specific Reason for Tip (i.e. I guess I need to create an account. This killer sounds like he has a remarkably similar MO. I am only guessing. And R364, you're an asshole. Why haven't we heard anything? View our online Press Pack. Hes a little bit too skinny to look like bridge guy but I can kind of see it. , money, salary, income, and assets. Why? I knew nothing about the case until today, but when I heard the man say Guys, down the hill it seemed like he was signalling other people via some Bluetooth handsfree set. The killer would have no tie to either girl except that they were the target of his boss. At the time, crews thought the girls had simply gotten lost on the trails and were unable to find their way back. That bridge was really scary-looking, having no side rails. There is speculation about 2 men in a white rental car with phony paper license plates that were spotted near the bridge. I saw the helicopter photos but it didnt look like anything to me. R288, That's exactly what I said when I read he is from LaFollette. Nope. That girl was incredibly smart to get it recorded. Aargh at first I knew lots . now who are all these names & initials?! YouTubeAbby Williams and Libby German, the victims of the Delphi murders. Also.its such a small town. (2:15ish). But Durnell found holes in the story, he said, and other officers come back having found ropes and blankets similar to those in which Delphi was found wrapped in at his home. The fat pedo does look like the old Bridge Man police sketch but then almost every guy in the state of Indiana looks like the Old Bridge Guy sketch. Same build, coloring, age of victims. She was a veteran of the Royal Variety Performance and was commissioned for a Maybe the families meant that the girls going to the bridge that day was not due to being specifically catfished on that day. I thought I would beat it all together, he said, according to the Daily Local News. The cops are probably not going to feed her all their information just in case. Like, we're doing this cool thing tomorrow afternoon. . I question the credibility because the "graphics editor" is wearing Lee press-on nails while pointing to something in those grainy pictures. Ridiculous to argue over whether it was/was not of Libby specifically. LE has really messed up -- particularly waiting too long to release info. He used a gun. And some of the ones who still haven't been caught: r291 - the current POI looks very good for it. In the two years since Libby and Abby were murdered, the evidence released to the public has remained minimal. liver disease, it has been revealed. I'll try to find an interview with Abby's mom that's pretty good. But even if he is connected to local police, that wouldnt stop the FBI from moving in on him, right? Delphi was 76 years old at the time of death. I remember this being national news when it happened. It seems like a very bold murder when it's about controlling two people. "True Crime Jesus" on Youtube has convincing videos about different POIs. Who knows if true, but that would really great if it works and new released information prompts a legitimate tip. Well, maybe Leigh Kerr triggered something. Indiana State Police later revealed that the second sketch, released more than two years after the girls were killed, was actually the first sketch they had drawn up. No details about that vehicle were released, including make and model, color or license plate number. I hope that it is solved, and BG is punished. "Catching this guy is my main goal in life right now. Last week, when I was wherever in the internet, I saw Robert Ives supposedly say non-secular. So I then went to a YouTube place and a commenter said crosses carved in the trees. Well who knows if thats true. Delphi Lawrence fathers name is N/A and Delphi Lawrence mothers name is N/A. She had blood under her fingernails. The "guys" and "down the hill" are two sentences spliced for release and in-between is gibberish. . Sgt. I hadnt know about the Brooks case but will read about it. I hasnt known about the tips on him but a week or so I was watching one of the briefings (this one appeared to be held in the woods) and he was standing behind Carter. Highly unlikely theyre not in the loop. i was wondering about this as well. Rudely quoting myself here because I forgot to add that it doesn't really fit with what we've heard about one of the girls being the subject of his interest while the other seemed to have just been eliminated. Is there partial DNA or a full DNA profile of the suspect? Especially, when they had to be driven to the secluded location. His family did not speak of the circumstances surrounding Delphis murder, and signs of her had been removed from the familys home on Chestnut Street. They stayed for most of the testimony, but left when medical examiner Halbert Fillinger testified about the case of death. Thank you for the updates. He also has items strapped to his shins that are sort of boxy. Because of social media, and the onslaught of armchair detectives, pictures and information of people who may look like the man in the photo circulated, causing death threats and harassment. I cant decide if hes a fraud or has inside info. but doesnt live there. R23 Thats awful. The basics: Two teen girls walking on a deserted bridge in Feb 2017 go missing and are found brutally murdered the next day, about 3/4 of a mile from the bridge. "I don't want this person to do this again, and if he has, I hope that I'm able to help that family and be a part of their lives eventually," Kelsi said. Abigail Williams and Liberty German went missing while walking on a trail near the Monon High Bridge in Delphi on Feb. 13, 2017. It is only when we mature into mid to late teens that the concept of making our own decisions develop. eta: The blood and tissue under Libby's fingernails might be her own. @R318-- Excellent analysis. Run a report showing which phone #'s were pinging in a specific area at a specific time and solved a bunch of cases like this. If the sheriff is indeed innocent, this documentary didnt do him any favors. But it's his "type," the type he kills. Does anyone have a link to the image, I've searched but not been able to find it. The first sketch was misleading. But that is the way he leaves them, I think. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in the neighbourhood of Hampstead, which is located in the city of London, England, UK. This validated my opinion of the striking resemblance. it would have been a thrilling adventure. R251 I think it sounds like they have a suspect whose wife is providing his alibi. One of the things I found strange was the then DA saying the crime scene was "odd" and that there were three signatures. The source also said the pose was sexual. I suspect youre right R197, but no one should EVER assume gender. READ | ISP call Liberty German a 'hero' for capturing audio, photos of suspect. I agree with the poster who said hes done this before. You can't see any such thing in a pic so low-res and Occam's Razor says it's just oversized/bulky clothing. The girls were found before noon the following day. The one podcast I forced myself to sit through was 7-8 hours of endlessly rehashed info and interviews with family members that went absolutely nowhere beyond what everybody has known since early stages of the investigation. For five years, no suspects had been named in the murder case of Libby German and Abby Williams, two best friends who were murdered while hiking in their hometown of Delphi, They still get tips on the hotline. One theory that keeps floating around, on discussion threads: Libby's dad is a known druggie. At least the FBI is investigating. One thing that has always stayed with me (either by reading Libby's grandmother's account of it or hearing Libby say it on a social media video) is that Libby was upset that her phone had to be reset to the factory settings and she lost photos stored in her phone. Some of you have been reading too much smutty crime fiction. Your first thought is, the BG was some transient perv who abducted them to rape them. Throughout the evening dozens of volunteers joined the search for the girls. This perp needs to be caught and fried. A lot of the stuff you're listing is speculation and rumor, not fact. I thought they had a suspect. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------. Why are people so literal-minded? Like they had a name, someone to watch? Several serial killers would return to the decomposing bodies of their victims. Police believe that the person in question is between 56 and 510 tall and weighs between 180 to 200 pounds. that sketch looks a LOT like him. Become a contributor - post when you want with no ads. Wish they had a chance to push the fucker off the bridge. I'm from Australia and expressed my sympathy and hope that the murderer/s would be caught swiftly. More than two years later, on April 22, 2019, Indiana State Police released a new piece of audio that is a slightly extended version of the initial clip and includes the word Guys followed by Down the Hill.. r319 Jack the Ripper did something similar to Mary Kelly after he killed her in her small bedsit room. Idk why. Abby's mother said that Abby would have put on makeup and done her hair if she were planning to meet a boy at the bridge that day. What a fucking monster. After the two attorneys gave their closings, the jury deliberated for three hours before returning with the guilty verdict. I have no idea what we are thinking. R211, I think people do it for plausible deniability reasons, in case the person they're talking about happens across any accusations. A composite sketch one of just a couple pictures of the Delphi Murders suspect. You can bet money on one thing. There's a school of thought that local LE have a good idea of the perp's ID, but the person has a strong (though faux) alibi. R61 They probably thought it was just some creep following them and didn't need the police. Her mother, Gladys Kent, was a classical dancer and was responsible for forming the children's dance troupe, the Kent Babes, Her father George was a musician and she grew up in Hayling Island, Hampshire, Educated at He knew what he was going to say before he said it.. Despite the woke, theyve always been notoriously anti-gay, yes? The man on the bridge could have one of those builds that some fat men do - the fat is all above the waist, they have weird barrel chests and big bellies and chubby faces but skinny arms and legs. She took a photo of the old guy with her cell phone because he was acting odd. As her family grew frustrated with the lack of developments in the case, Liberty's older sister Kelsi German revealed in February 2020 that she is studying forensic science in the hope of one-day helping to solve who killed her sister. It shows how ratty the bridge was and why the killer would have been apprehensive when walking across the bridge. The identity of the male model used by the account in its profile pictures is known by investigators and they are not considered a person of interest in the case. They knew in advance they would have that snow makeup day off so they could have told the "model" they would be there 2 weeks prior to their murders. Carroll County Sheriffs OfficeCarroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenvy has been working the Delphi Murders case for four years. Leigh is both a male and female name, so no, hes not posing as a woman. She sent the photo to LE. "That young lady is a hero, that is no doubt, Indiana State Police Sgt. In October, police announced that Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested and charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. This development, if you can call it that, seems desperate. The telephone Tip Line is (844) 459-5786. click ACCEPT. There are about 6 guys who internet sleuths have considered as suspects who look like the police sketch. The sketches were composed from witness accounts of two separate individuals who were in the area on the day of the murders. Stranger to the two victims. Chadwell worked at a Saburu factory but I think it was in Lafayette, IN. Most people think that LE knows who killed them but didn't have enough evidence. R143, I dont have HLN. She had a career in acting and is most remembered for her roles in The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959), and The Avengers (1959). Try a different tactic or call it a cold case. HLN had a 5-year anniversary show on Saturday night. Was Valentines Day a trigger for the Delphi murders? She saw the video and confirms a bit. After this look at the latest updates on the Delphi murders, read about six grisly cases that remain unsolved and the chilling story of Myra Hindley and the Moors murders. Anyone could have easily convinced the young girls that they werent allowed to be on the bridge and must return by a different route, then guiding them down the hill to an alternative route to the trail head. I think that guy (who has obviously gained a lot of weight since some of them were taken) could very easily be the killer. When Abby and Libby did not come back for pickup at 5:30 p.m., their parents reported them missing. It looks terrifying even without the psycho killer lurking. So their method of hardly releasing any info to make the killer be caught by slipping up (or whatever) obviously didnt work. 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