Its just about perfect for the deer woods, and you can easily teach a youngster the art of shooting an iron-sighted lever rifle without punishing recoil. Like most of our Caliber Battles, the choice here is between a lighter bullet going faster (the .30-30) and a heavier bullet going slower (the .35 Rem.). Another interesting tidbit about the .35 Remington is the alleged use of a Remington Model 8 chambered in the cartridge by legendary Texas Ranger Frank Hamer in the final ambush that killed Bonnie & Clyde in 1934. Which is the more useful cartridge? Even when using the standard factory loads, the .35 Remington is an outstanding round for use on medium sized game such as whitetail deer, feral hogs, and black bear at short ranges. lcw #12400267 11/15/17. Whitetail hunting strategies for the next generation. Neither produce much felt recoil, which makes them perfect for lighter rifles and newer hunters. Especially when used in handy, quick pointing rifles such as the Marlin 336, the .35 Remington really comes into its own when used in thick cover. Because of its power and versatility, many generations of hunters from states as varied as Maine, North Carolina, Texas, and Georgia have successfully hunted deer, moose, bear, and hogs (like the one in the photo below) with the .35 Remington. I've been told that Winchester will soon produce full-metal-jacket (FMJ) ammunition for the .350 Legend, and that the FMJ load will cost even less per box. The '06 has been the big-game king forever. At ranges less than 100 yards, likewhen hunting whitetail deeror black bear in thick cover,the cartridge excels and is absolutely deadly on big game. These advertisements typically featured hunters fearlessly facing down wolves and grizzly bears with their trusty Remington Auto-Loading Rifle chambered in the potent .35 Remington cartridge. 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In 2022, he was named as the brands Shooting Editor. In addition to the semi-auto Remington Model 8 and 81, Remington also produced the Model 14 pump-action rifle chambered in the cartridge. This stumpy little cartridge was introduced to the hunting public in 1908 and is the only surviving member of the early class of Remington rimless cartridges. The .30/30 Win. It was developed in 1957 for an experimental rifle known as the AR-15. When hunters there really need to make a rapid shot and anchor their game quickly, they can rely on a Marlin 336 chambered in .35 Remington. were to go head to head with the .25-35 Win., .30-30 Win. Its spawn, the .351 Winchester Self Loader, fared a little better, but it was never in danger of greatness. It was noticeably better than its pappy, and although many gave it a. I love a good underdog story (not to mention a less common cartridge), and I was hoping to be able to justify giving the nod to the .35 Rem. These seemingly small differences added up to a significant difference in power and effectiveness on game between the two cartridges. The .30/30s dominance as the king of lever-cartridges is also clear when you look at available ammunition. Campfire Ranger. As Barnes puts it, the .35 Rem. The .35 Remington uses the 180- and 200-grain .358caliber bullets, and while light-for-caliber, they are effective at the ranges a .35 Remington is used, which is usually inside of 150 yards. That version is in some dispute, with evidence that Whelen himself developed the cartridge or at least worked with Howe on its development. But bringing down game isnt just about heavy, fast-flying bullets. of energy at 200 yards, dropping 7.5 inches when using a 100-yard zero. The ammunition situation is a little better than the rifles. Barnes has a Vor-TX load with a 180-grain TSX bullet and a muzzle velocity of 2900 f.p.s. In rifle cartridges, we usually take the safe route and .30-caliber has emerged as the American shooters choice. Moderate, safe, bland and predictable. Mag. Bottles & 12-oz. to achieve its potential. While the American mainstream wont accept the .35, they are not unloved. With a 171 grain cast lead bullet and IMR 4227 powder, the Long and short if it is under 150 yards there's very little difference in killing power between the 35 Rem and 308 Win. This combination offers an affordable, hard-hitting rig which is capable of taking most common game animals, albeit at short range. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. Note: A longer version of this article can be found on the Rifle Cartridge Page. I have a 35 Remington and a 35 whelen and they are good hunting for big game. was designed to compete with the very popular .38-55 Win. The .35 Remingtons story is a bit different. For instance, Remington also sells 150gr load that produces velocities around 2,300 feet per second. Younger hunters seem fixated on shooting further. Theyre real deal hunting rifles honored and appreciated by those who hunt with their feet as opposed to feet-per-second. On the other hand, the 200-grain LEVERevolution .35 Remington load will drop 17 inches with the same 200-yard zero. Thompson Center also manufactures their break action, single shot Contender pistol in .35 Remington for handgun hunters who love the cartridge. Henry Repeating Arms currently manufactures a model in .35 Remington as well. The .35 Remington has proven itself for almost a century as a reliable short-range woods cartridge for medium-sized game such as deer and black bear. figure of .223eId have to agree with you as well. The maximum load is 19.5 Ruger briefly chambered the M77 rifle in .35 Whelen. Its even more effective when using some of the hotter loads (like those from Buffalo Bore) available on the market. .30-30 Win. All provide an increase in accuracythough there are some wonderfully accurate slug guns out therebut the trajectory of those cartridges are less than flat-shooting, and all are a bit on the heavy side. Yet, that bore diameter produces some of the best hunting cartridges available. Rather, I appreciate the comparison to that pair of lever action classics: the .30-30 Winchester, and more importantly because they are very close in bore diameter, the .35 Remington. Due in part to this rounds greater popularity and in part to the R&D surrounding .30-caliber pills, the .30-30 can be loaded with far more advanced projectiles. and is a good cartridge for hunting the thick woods for deer, hogs, black bear or even elk. Usually, Id give the nod here to the .35 Rem., and theres no question it hits harder. History [ edit] Winchester introduced the .351 SL in the Winchester Model 1907 self-loading rifle as a replacement for the Winchester Model 1905 and the .35 SL. On those gray, moody November days when I am feeling blue I take my Remington Model 141 pump-action rifle in .35 Rem. Jacketed bullet diameter is .351", not is a wonderful cartridge, but nobody buys them. Spl. The 2019 SHOT Show saw the release of the latest cartridge from Winchester: the 350 Legend. The .35 Remington initially found favor among hunters seeking a good brush bullet and many deer, bear, elk, and even moose have fallen to the .35 Remington over the years. Depending on the load, 150 yards may be a better estimate. .30-30 Win. Posts: 16,091. The Big Game Hunting Blog is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com, Amazon.co.uk, Amazon.ca, Amazon.com.au, and other Amazon stores worldwide. Shootability is still with us as well. Back in 1983 Winchester introduced the .356 Win. Shootability vs. .35 Rem. Sierra Game King from my .35 Whelen, he ran 30-40yds . In most guns, neither cartridge produces the velocity or accuracy for varmints, and both are underpowered for very large game. I believe it never will. In it's .35 caliber guise, bullets from bulk packaged Remington Core-Lockt to Barnes, Hornady, Sierra, and more are available. I double lunged a buck with a 225gr. Winchester saw this and developed a new round offering a low recoil, low cost, straight-walled case that fit into the laws and guns of the area dominated by .450 BM. The .30-30 only produces about 10 foot-pounds (ft.-lbs.) Mag. The 35 Remington also uses a bullet about 18% heavier and with over 35% more frontal surface area (.1007 vs .0745 square inches). However, historians are conflicted on the subject and there are several different stories about what rifle Hamer actually used. That list, by the way, is in ascending order of power. I own several rifles in this cartridge and all my .35 Whelen rifles are accurate. G. Joined: Feb 2010. $735 + $40 SHIPPING to your FFL DEALER.This gun is chambered in the WINCHESTER 35 CAL. Of the four rifle cartridges introduced with the Remington Model 8, the .35 Remington was by far the most popular and is the only one still in production. Join me for a look at another great investment rifle. Federal, for example, offers 12 varieties of the .30-30, including loads in their excellent Trophy Copper and HammerDown series. Its flatter trajectory helps hunters reach across the open country, and I doubt theres a real ranch west of the big river that doesnt have a .30/30 lever-gun behind the kitchen door, if not behind the truck seat. If the .35 Rem. with bullets between 200 grains and 220 grains. The .35 Remington load using the 150-grain Core-Lokt obtains just about the same muzzle velocity, with a bullet having a lower B.C. It is capable of driving a. But, there is an issue: It seems the .35 Remington ammunition has begun to fade away. He gave me 200 trade in on the 35 whelen barrel and the 358 was 295 plus shipping. The .35 Rem. The benefits of .350 Legend are that it is indeed inexpensive and produces lower recoil. I tried three of Winchesters five loads at SHOT Shows Industry Day at the Range, and all were a pleasure to shoot and plenty accurate. The .358 has 24 percent more energy at the muzzle than the .300 Win. A loyal segment of hunters and shooters still use the cartridge, but most other hunters pass by the .35 Remington in favor of modern cartridges with more impressive ballistics on paper. Comparatively, the 35 Remington load that hits hardest is the 220-grain "Heavy" by Buffalo Bore. The 600 Magnum suffered from a barrel that was too short at 18 inches. The muzzle velocity was stated to be 1850 fps and the muzzle energy 1370 ft. lbs. Mag. Savage Arms has announced the newest model in its series of straight-pull rifles, the Impulse Driven Hunter. check. If zeroed at 200 yards, their 160-grain FTX .30/30 Winchester load will drop 12 inches at 300 yards. .30-30 Win, .35 Rem, .351 WSL, a.o., sizes. Both conceived in the early 20th century, the .270 Winchester and the .30-06 Springfield are ballistically similar, easy to find, and chambered in a wide variety of rifles. We offer rifle ammo in a number of calibers including 223 REMINGTON, 30 CARBINE, 300 WIN MAG, 307 WIN, 308 WIN, 375 WINCHESTER, 5.45 X 39MM, 7X64MM and more. Richard Mann You can never lead if you always follow; the other cartridges were designed to chase Winchesters success, while the .35 Rem. Re: 35 Remington vs. 358 Winchester. The .35 Rem. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. produced 109 results. remains in production. Still, much like the old man who can rattle your teeth with a punch, appearances can be deceiving. Lyman mold #350319. In most factory loads, the .30-30 flies faster and employs more devastating bullets. Winchester introduced the .351 WSL in 1907 for their Model 35 Remington vs 30-30 A typical 35 Remington factory load (200gr bullet at 2,080fps) has about 5% more energy than a normal 30-30 factory load (170gr bullet at 2,200fps). More importantly, everything it makes has the performance to match. stated to be 1850 fps and the muzzle energy 1370 ft. lbs. cast bullets to .352". However, even after 123 years on the market, the .30-30 Winchester remains the king of medium caliber lever guns; it has been in the top ten selling cartridges for Federal Premium to this day, and with millions of rifles out there chambered for the cartridge, that will probably be a fact decades from now. [2], While a few gun writers in the 1960s criticized the .351 SL for being inadequate as a deer hunting round, and the round's power has sometimes been compared to a .357 Magnum carbine load, the .351 SL's killing power falls somewhere between the .30-30 Winchester and the .35 Remington. Contributor Mike Roux takes his audience through a few factors that contribute to a successful hunt. Calling and shooting predators is one of the things that helps hunters get from the end of the fall seasons to when the turkeys start gobbling. Richard Mann was born and raised in West Virginia and has hunted from the Montana mountains to the green hills of Africa. They have almost all abandoned the cartridge. Comparing the two in spite of the weight difference, youll see the 350 obtaining 2100 fps at the muzzle, and the .35 Remington cruising along at 2080 fps; not a whole lot of difference, though Id have to give the edge to the .35 Remington for a bit more sectional density with the slightly heavier bullet. The new 350 Legend has the benefit of modern engineering, and the fact that it wasnt designed specifically for a tubular magazine. A .35 Rem. They include both the AccuBond and the Partition 225-grain bullets with a muzzle velocity of 2800 f.p.s. The .35 Whelen is accurate, hits hard, penetrates deep, shoots flat and recoils mildly. Finally, Winchester had developed an autoloader powerful enough to truly be used on North American big game. For those interested in wringing out all of the power available in the .35 Remington, there are a couple of other .35 Remington ammunition options besides the standard 200gr soft point loads listed above. The .35 Win., .35 Newton and .350 Griffin & Howe Mag. Both generate between 1,800 and 1,900 ft.-lbs. Contrary to what Gen Z shooters might think, traditionally styled lever-action rifles are not just relics or a way to get your cowboy fix. has far better knockddown power than the .30-30 under any conditions and at any range.. The best answer to the question might be to just get one of each. Soon after, the classic 150- and 170-grain loads took root, and due to the tubular magazines of so many popular rifles, round nose bullets were employed. However, the most popular rifle chambered in .35 Remington is the Marlin Model 336 lever-action rifle. Anything about this rifle they must have not manufactured very many hunters tell me it is rare to see the cartridge in this caliber from a Remington model 600 I do like this rifle it is very accurate and fun to shoot. would follow that tradition. In the lever-action Marlin Model 336, the cartridge became a favorite of eastern deer and bear hunters, giving plenty of knockdown power in a compact and affordable package. The Winchester 351 self-loading rifle is amazing, and unique enough to add true value to your gun colle. Whether you're shooting a break-action, pump-action, or semiautomatic, Sign up for the Field & Stream newsletter and get the latest intelligence straight to your inbox. A 35 Rem or .358 Win would have been perfect for the situation. Copyright 2023 Big Game Hunting Adventures LLC | All Rights Reserved. Sure, we experiment a bit with other bore sizes, but in the end it always comes back to the .30 caliber. is still not burning up the sales records, so maybe ahead of its time is the wrong description. Smith & Wesson's new M&P FPC is a compact, folding pistol-caliber carbine chambered in 9 mm Luger and designed to accept the company's M&P handgun magazines. The .350 Rem. Mag., and I think thats the only current production rifle in that cartridge. Winchester is among the leaders in the entire ammunition industry in terms of high-volume production of both .223 Rem. It is true that the cartridge has its limitations, but used under the right circumstances, itis an outstanding choice. plowed fresh ground. The straight-wall, rimless design requires that the cartridge headspaces off of the case mouthmuch like a .45 ACP or 9mm Lugerbut the use of spitzer bullets certainly gives an advantage out beyond the 100-yard mark. Takedown Model, . Just $1 per month . Because the Ruger #1 will use pointed bullets, there are more suitable in .35 caliber than .348. It is very accurate, easy to carry and fast on the target. and .351" JSP bullets. Today, most major manufacturers offer multiple actions chambered in .30-30. The .35SL proved popular at first with the general public as a short-range deer and black bear hunting cartridge, but was soon superseded by the introduction of the more powerful .351SL in the Winchester '07. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Reloading Centerfire Ammunition: Tips For Getting Started, Shooting and Loading the 6.8x43 mm Rem. From the Green Goblin (a bolt-action rifle I built on a Remington action), both will produce groups that are sub-minute-of-angle. Nosler offers the .350 Rem. and the .32 Win. During the spring conservation order, you can hunt with outfitters from Arkansas to Saskatchewan. At 100 yards it will hit with 1861 foot-pounds of energy. Joined: Feb 2010. Mag..404 Jeffery vs. .416 Rigby.243 Winchester vs. 6mm Creedmoor.300 PRC vs. .300 Win. Winchester introduced the .351 SL in the Winchester Model 1907 self-loading rifle as a replacement for the Winchester Model 1905 and the .35 SL. Karl Brauneis, Forester, Lander, Wyoming, Also shooting a 35 Remington from a model 600 Remington bolt action rifle and very seldom ever hear Remington introduced the .35 about 10 years later in 1906 alongside their Model 8 semi-automatic rifle. The .243 Win. Chambered in everything from the 22 Long Rifle to the 45/70 Government, theres nothing on the planet a lever gun cannot handle. and a .30-06 produces about 20 ft.-lbs. Driving a 160-grain jacketed bullet to a velocity of just over 2300 fps, it represented a fantastic hunting cartridge for its time. .35 Remington This stumpy little cartridge was introduced to the hunting public in 1908 and is the only surviving member of the early class of Remington rimless cartridges. Deadshot Boxed Combo Shooting Bag - Unfilled. If youre hoping to save your wallet rather than your shoulder, the .30-30 is the way to go. Mag. .30-30 Win. Using a 180 grain JSP bullet, Lyman data shows a starting the big companies are pushing 6.5 creedomr and others 6.8 which is like a 270 to make money. factory load is a 250-grain Oryx bullet listed with a muzzle velocity of 2723 f.p.s. Another outstanding feature is that the cartridge will smoothly feed through the 336 action whereas the 45/70 cartridge can be very difficult. Re: 35 Remington vs. 358 Winchester. I feel the cartridges offer very similar performance, at similar ranges. On the other hand, the hardest hitting 35 Remington load is the 220-grain Heavy load from Buffalo Bore. For .30-30, the same search produced 5,841 results. These strengths along with the Marlin 336 ease of carry (foot or horseback) and its open iron sights make it possibly the best bear protection firearm out there. I remember in Washington in the early 70s my older brother pulled up in his truck with the biggest elk Id ever seen. He was born in 1921 and later served as a navy corpsman in Japan and Korea. The Winchester cartridge has an overall length of 2.71 and uses a case 2.045 long. was also the only cartridge of that original Remington family that was based on a different parent case. Which is the more useful cartridge? It never has been and never will be a good long range cartridge, but if anything,modern loadings using high quality bullets have further improved the performance of the .35 Remington on big game at short to moderate range. However, they are high pressure loads and should only be used in modern firearms, such as the Marlin 336, that are in good condition. Of the Winchester cartridges, only the .30-30 Win. Included in that have been a whole bunch of deer, hogs and a bear or two. of energy with a 7.5-pound rifle, according to Chuck Hawks recoil table. On Wednesday, the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) sent a notice of intent to sue to the U.S. Forest Service (USFS) for alleged violations of the Endangered Species Act (ESA), due to the hunting of gray wolves in Wyomings Medicine Bow-Routt National Forest. Those traditional lead-core bullets have proved their worth in the field, but its tough to compete with the advancements in bullet-making of the last 20 years. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. For those close range shots, the trusty old .35 Remington has few equals. All rights reserved. For more than two centuries, Westley Richards has produced some of the worlds finest firearms, each wearing a timeless and classic look with bespoke flourishes. in its NoslerCustom line with a 225-grain Partition bullet at 2550 f.p.s. Remington made great efforts to promote the power of the .35 Remington by featuring the cartridge, along with their revolutionary new semi-automatic rifle, in many advertisements during the first half of the 20th Century. Read on for his take on this Thai-inspired fusion dish. Along with the rifle, they introduced four new rimless cartridges: the .25 Remington, the .30 Remington, the .32 Remington, and the .35 Remington. with a similar 180-grain bullet. But trajectory is a foolish way to compare cartridges typically used at distances inside 150 yards. This ammunition is often loaded to lower velocities in consideration of older firearms which have not been properly maintained, and large differences are seen over the chronograph relative to vintage .351 SL ammunition. With the best loads, my Remington Model 700 is one-hole accurate. If I were a Midwest hunter, Id dive on top of the 350 Legend, as it gives what I consider to be the most bang for the buck. The .35 Remington's story is a bit different. can only be had in Federals traditional, lead-core Power-Shok line. You can trade in your 35 rem barrel on edstc.com for a 358 barrel. is a classic Army brat. Sadly, my favorite bullet diameter, the .35 caliber, doesnt even rate a blip on the American shooters radar screen. Thanks for your support. I have a .356 Win. East, west, north, or south, the .30/30 is the most popular big game hunting cartridge for the lever-action rifle. Calling and shooting predators is one of the things that helps hunters get from the end of the fall seasons to when the turkeys start gobbling. My own 94 Winchester is coming out of the safe this year, freshly adorned with a new front sight and rear peep from Skinner Sights; even middle-aged eyes get a new lease on life, and Im having lots of fun from the bench with my old friend. If you don't intend to hunt beyond 200Yards, save you money keep your 35 Rem in a Marlin platform and scope it with a Leupold. offered the performance level of the .358 Win. If you were to give the edge to the larger frontal diameter of the .35 Remington.358 versus .308you would have a valid point. Most only in imaginations. The longevity of both cartridges speaks to their efficacy on game, and their compatibility with short, light carbines makes them popular among hunters in thick brush. Classic lever-action deer rifles are undoubtedly cool. The .358 Win. 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