What is interesting is that the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way before modern science found out its existence. 1978. Webplanet earth. Were aliens, lost technology or something else entirely involved? "Lecture 1st You dont have to watch too many Fantasy Channel (formerly known as the History Channel) specials on ancient astronauts before youll be told about the primitive African Dogon of Mali and their advanced astronomical knowledge bestowed, of course, by extraterrestrials. Nothing fuels religious extremism more than the belief that one has found the absolute moral truth. (2004). Hmm, The Cardiff Giant, one of the most celebrated hoaxes in American history, on display at the Farmers Museum in Cooperstown, NY. <> Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. % Instead, he closed his response to my own article in 1979 with a brushoff: "In my view it is pointless to attack someone in print unless you can substantiate what you are saying. The Nine became part of the UFO and New Age mythology and many claim to be in contact with them. The only mystery is how anyone could take seriously either the notion of Investigating E. "Ancient Astronauts," in, McDaid, Liam. 2000. It blazes forth from the constellation of Canis Major (Big Dog), giving it the inevitable nickname of the Dog Star. No other anthropologist supports their opinions. York: Random House, 1995). Legends of the Dogon Belief in a Long-Solved Mystery Resurfaces. companion" (Bullard). Obviously, no Earth-based species was flying to other stars back then! "Legends of the Dogon: belief in a long-solved WebThe claims about the Dogons' astronomical knowledge have also been challenged. amphibious aliens or telescopic vision due to melanin. "There is some evidence," he points out, "that the Dogon like to frame pictures with an ellipse, and that Temple may be mistaken about the claim that in Dogon mythology the planets and Sirius-B move in elliptical orbits." Readers of Skeptic are not so sanguine. by Philip Coppens. If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. Even if you allow for a much higher biological mutation rate on any Sirian planet compared to the Earth, it still isnt enough time. The Dogon have a ch. Could Sirius B have been a red giant a few thousand years ago? The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. Legends of the Dogon Belief in a Long-Solved Mystery Resurfaces. Did Oberg? (Photo by John and Keturah. Ancient astronauts entrepreneur Erich von Daniken endorses and adopts Temple's explanations in his latest book, Von Daniken's Proof. For Siwa, I called Dr. Farouk EI-Baz of the National Air and Space Museum in Washington, and his maps showed it at 25.50 degE, 29.22 degN (that's the oasis center, with the modern town about ten kilometers SE). They all have one thing in common: enormous monsters. MANY SKEPTICS WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT ONCE SOMETHING IS debunked, that will be the end of it. It seems likely that we will never know for sure. WebRe: Dogon Sirius claim debunked - Graham Hancock Official Website Mysteries Taken from [ library.thinkquest.org] According to the Dogon priests, Sirius is orbited by a tiny secret star that they refer to as 'po', which traces an elliptical path around Sirius taking 50 years to Scientists learn that the Dogon do not possess secret knowledge about the star Sirius and its companions. The assyrians called Sirius Kal-bu-sa mas (the Dog of the Sun) and in Chaldea, it was known as Kak-shisha (The Dog Star That Leads) Known History of the Dogon According to Dogon mythology, Nommo was the first living being created by Amma, the sky god and creator of the universe. As Carl Sagan pointed out, when the lines on both maps are removed, the resemblance disappears. "Legends of the Dogon: belief in a long-solved The X symbol inside the oval is Sirius A, The oval itself is labeled Umlaufbahn von Sirius B, or Orbit of Sirius B. Pretty convincing. himself and his loose speculations on what he learned from Griaule, who The second problem is that ancient writers seemed to use color for stars in a way different from the way that we do (they described Pollux, Arcturus, and Capella as red a modern observer would call them yellow-orange, orange, and yellow, respectively). (Temple claims missionaries didn't show up until 1949.) extremely dense and has a fifty-year orbit. Ask about whatever you want with our Free Rune Readings! In other words, the Dogon tribe would not only need the knowledge but also a telescope in order for them to have the information they already seemed to possess. Unfortunately the ancient records contain no clear, unambiguous references to this Sirius lore although the works of historians, astronomers and philosophers were explicit and detailed on innumerable other subjects. For example, he claims that the Dogon have a drawing like the one in Figure 1. The Sirius mystery, though, remains of great interest to many researchers today. You guessed it -- Sirius! September 1976 saw In 1966, Temple then aged 21 became Secretary of Youngs Foundation for the Study of Consciousness. The star Sirius is certainly no stranger to mysteries. Some pseudosciences such as homeopathy and free energy never die. In their original findings, Griaule and Deiterlen make no comment about the Dogon knowledge of Sirius B. (I must confess I've felt that way about some other people, tool). One of the problems the UFO crowd has is providing an answer to the question of where the aliens who visit us come from. The Sirius mystery, though, remains of great interest to many researchers today. The inspiration for this claim was a star map produced by Betty Hill while under hypnosis. The Dogons were not isolated. The Nommos descended from the sky in a vessel accompanied by fire and thunder. In 1965, Arthur Young gave Robert Temple a French article on the secret star lore of the Dogon, an article written by two French anthropologists Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen. You dont have to watch too many Fantasy Channel (formerly known as the History Channel) specials on ancient astronauts before youll be told about the primitive African Dogon of Mali and their advanced astronomical knowledge bestowed, of course, by extraterrestrials. Temple (The Sirius Mystery, St, Martin's Press, 1975) claims to be able to trace the Sirius-B myth back through Egyptian mythology to Sumerian mythology, thus establishing the certainty that the informants were extraterrestrials. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. As the brightest star in the sky it was known and worshiped by ancient civilizations. Melanin Conference, San Francisco, September 16-17, 1987"). After being surprised that an astromomy association would, after all this time, bother to publish such an article, I did a web search and found that in 1997 Robert Temple published a second edition of the book that started it all TheSirius Mystery in which he addressed none of the main criticisms that had been directed against the first edition, published in 1976. If I were alone in picking on Temple's thesis, he might be able to argue a case for ad hominem persecution. ), many debunked issues keep rising from the dead like vampires springing from their tombs. But the extraterrestrial hypothesis will not fade away so easily. However, doubts have been raised about the reliability of Griaule and Dieterlen's work on which The Sirius Mystery is based,[4][5] and alternative explanations have been proposed. The biggest challenge to Griaule, however, came from anthropologist Walter Van Beek. stream Given that the French stayed in their territory for five weeks and had several local guides, it would not be surprising if they shared some astronomical knowledge during that time. WebNew evidence deals a devastating blow to what was considered to be the best case for extraterrestrial visitation. Figure 2. The Dogon were in fact aware of the fact that Sirius is a binary system (i.e. Press J to jump to the feed. A critical analysis has to investigate the accuracy of such claims, so as to judge the validity of the book's conclusions. knowledge of the satellites of Jupiter and rings of Saturn, among other the Sirius "Mystery". Second, while it is difficult to obtain precise locations of many archeological sites referred to in The Sirius Mystery, Temple himself shows a map that gives the location of Behdet (31.23 degE, 31.50 degN) and Thebes (32.63 degE, 25.70 degN). Bullard, Thomas. It is a type of fuel that can lead to what Clay Farris Naff cleverly calls the neuron bomb. In this post, Michael Shermer asks, Is there a moral standard that stands above all the worlds religions that is based on some transcendent source?. Some astronomers speculate that the white dwarf Sirius B might have been a flaming red giant only 2000 years ago although current astrophysical theories decree that any such transformation in less than 100,000 years is impossible. The oldest traces of life on Earth go back to about that time. for some unknown reason from a planet orbiting Since Sirius B is a very dense white dwarf star about the size of Earth, it can only be seen in dark skies with medium-sized telescopes. A revised edition was published in 1998 with the new subtitle New scientific "wished to affirm the complexity of African religions and questioned that by the time Griaule arrived, the Dogon may have had a grounding in 20th his informants in such a forceful leading manner that they created new Print versions available in Dutch, Russian, Japanese, and Korean. The third explanation is that they learned the information from Europeans or in European schools. The aliens came here Temples And this is what Mr. Oberg has done." Am I getting too picky here? The second idea, championed by Afrocentrist historians, is that the Dogons either found out about Sirius B on their own or learned about it from the Egyptians. So what is the alternative to the extraterrestrial hypothesis for the Dogon myths7 The Dogons could have learned of European Sirius lore in the 1920's from traders, explorers or missionaries, many of whom are avid amateur astronomers. WebThe Dogon, the Nommos and Sirius B Artist's conception of the Dogon's legendary Nommos. Its appearance in the dawn sky over Egypt warned of the impending Nile floods and the summer's heat and marked the beginning of the Egyptian calendar. The Dogon Revisited Pseudoarchaeology book by Robert K. G. Temple, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Sirius_Mystery&oldid=1135262588, CS1 maint: bot: original URL status unknown, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 23 January 2023, at 16:12. Classical mythology has been a Rorschach test into which people have projected nearly any notion that appealed to them. Skeptic Jason Colavito counts The Sirius Mystery among the body of works in a tradition of ancient astronaut ideas he believes were ultimately inspired by H. P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos.[13][14]. How did the Dogon obtain this knowledge? He soon multiplied to become six pairs of twins. Conversations With For instance, the anthropologist Walter Van Beek, who studied the Dogon after Griaule and Dieterlen, found no evidence that the Dogon considered Sirius to be a double star and/or that astronomy was particularly important in their belief system. The tribe has a periodic Sirius festival called the "Segui" ceremony; each celebration lasts several years (the last was in 1968-72.) Review. (Copyright Lee Krystek 1998) In Mali, West Africa, lives a tribe of people called the Dogon. (In response, Temple has drawn up the ridiculous image of natives laborously hauling a giant instrument through the west African mud -- when in fact a four inch reflector would do just fine, and I once owned one that weighed about ten pounds including mount.) The Dogon. Figure 1. 7 0 obj Sagan, But if the error is real, it reflects on the only kind of hard, checkable, testable evidence Temple has offered for his theories. In 1991, Van Beek led a team of anthropologists to Mali and declared that they found absolutely no trace of the detailed Sirius lore reported by the French anthropologists. Seriously: The Dogon and Sirius? Ogotemmeli: An Introduction to Dogon Religious The other five are still seen as red but from the time of Arab astronomers to the present day Sirius has been blue-white. In a response published in Fate magazine, he denied intending that: "I refer, entirely in passing, to the Greek word for siren and its similarity to the word for Sirius, drawing absolutely Giants appear in cultures around the world: Biblical tales of giants more than ten feet tall; Roman and Greek stories of titans and heroes; European stories of giants of mountain and hill. Griaule and Dieterlen's claims, to fit his fantastic story. Perhaps the source was Temple traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. 68-70. Could a remote African people have gained esoteric knowledge about the sky without having telescopes? Sirius B was first observed in 1862, and had been predicted in 1844 on dynamic grounds. The number "fifty" has great signifance in ancient myths. Though Temples work was challenged, at its core lay the original anthropological study of the Dogon by Griaule and Dieterlen, who describe the secret knowledge of Sirius B and Sirius C in their own book The Pale Fox. A dynamical study published in 1995, based on anomalous perturbations of Sirius B (suggestive of the star being gravitationally influenced by another body) concluded that the presence of a third star orbiting Sirius could not be ruled out. Encyclopedia Galactica,, Benest, D. and J. L. Duvent. Temples response to criticism has so far been evasive. This step was taken by others, particularly Temple, in the Sixties and Seventies. What is interesting is that the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way before modern science found out its existence. A must for every bookshelf.ORDER the book, It seems clear that the Dogon did indeed get their information from other cultures. Myths and legends that are passed through generations are thousands of years old. As anthropologists have known for a long time, primitive tribes have a remarkable talent for absorbing interesting new stories into their traditional mythology. And finally, even if Sirius B had been a visible red giant a few thousand years ago, how would the Dogon know that Sirius B was still there after it became a white dwarf? He has written of Temples belief that present-day authorities are unwilling to set aside the blinkers of orthodoxy, unable to admit the validity of anything that lies outside their field or that offers a challenge to the status quo. The parts that bear at least a superficial resemblance to astronomical facts are most likely trimmings added in this century. He also gives public talks on astronomy and related fringe topics to international audiences. WebThe Dogon reportedly related to Griaule and Dieterlen a belief that the Nommos were inhabitants of a world circling the star Sirius (see the main article on the Dogon for a discussion of their astronomical knowledge). None were detected, That was not surprising since, judging from the age and energy of the stars in the Sirius system, astronomers believe it is unlikely that any earthlike planets could exist there long enough for life to emerge and develop. They conclude that Temple was very keen to please his mentor, who believed in extraterrestrial beings from Sirius. The mystery of the ancient "red" Sirius also remains baffling. And from what star system does the visitor come? WebAlso there is the fact that they described the Nommo as fish people and you find all kinds of half man/half fish - serpent imagery all over the Mediterranean. (Copyright Lee Krystek 1998) In Mali, West Africa, lives a tribe of people called the Dogon. by Liam McDaid. To penetrate this supposed disguise (which might not be a disguise at all, other classical scholars maintain), Temple resorts to ancient puns, to hidden meanings, to "garbled versions" which he must amend to fit the theory, to the exchange of consonants in innocent-looking words, to similar-sounding words from There are innocent available explanations: typographical error or miscopied notes, for example. the Dogon. What is interesting is that the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way before modern science found out its existence. The Dogon legend connected with Sirius, wrote Ridpath, "is riddled with ambiguities, contradictions, and downright errors, at least if we try to interpret it literally." Copyright 19922023. Tom Sever's "The Obsession with the Star Sirius," and editor Ron Oriti's "On Not Taking it Seriously." Temple has made very few verifiable assertions about mythology (and The Sirius Mystery is overwhelmingly about ancient myths, not about the Dogons or modern astronomy). Also, in the 1980s and 1990s, anthropologist Walter van Beek could find no evidence that the Dogon possessed knowledge about Sirius B today.9 But more enlightening is the fact that Griaule studied astronomy in Paris and brought star maps with him to Mali. Cuddle up with someone. Saturn is not, as the Dogons insist, the farthest planet in the solar system. The position of the The alleged visitors from outer space The bad news is that the pseudoscience websites were in seventeen different languages. of earth and transmitted in conversation. Fishs map and Hills map look similar only because the lines connecting the stars look the same. The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. fifty years. Through the carbon dating of old ritual masks researchers have established the antiquity of the Segui ceremonies. Our mysteries may be different but our questions are the same and we are no wiser. Clearly the Dogons (in common with many other cultures) were fascinated by Sirius, probably because its position in the sky was crucial to successful agriculture (it's the only star they have a name for.) Ridpath asserts. | 3938 State St., Suite # 101, Santa Barbara, CA, 93105-3114 | 1-805-576-9396. Griaule, Marcel. The review was indeed consequently modified in parts where Temple explained portions of his book I may have misinterpreted. But it is apparent that Temple was not aware of Van Beeks devastating research. The Dogon people had been visited by European visitors many times, most notably when they hosted French astronomers looking to find a good vantage point to observe the solar eclipse of 1893. implausible notions such as the claim that the Dogon got their knowledge Temple does not argue that contact with an advanced civilization is the only way that the Dogon could have obtained what he understood to be accurate information on Sirius B, but he indicates that he personally finds the theory of alien contact more convincing. Speculation about the Dogon on numerous websites is now mingled with fact, leading to wide misunderstanding among the public about Dogon mythology. Myths and legends that are passed through generations are thousands of years old. Or, Griaule's account may reflect his own interests more than that of in elliptical orbits of astronomical phenomena. Dogon descriptions of Jupiter, Saturn and Sirius remind one of Jonathan Swift's uncanny description of the two undiscovered moons of Mars. informed the Dogon of Sirius B or "he misinterpreted their references [5], Astronomer Carl Sagan touched upon the issue in his book Broca's Brain (1979), seeing problems in Temple's hypothesis. If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. space. Especially those who believe that our past is not at all how mainstream historians believe it to be, or indeed, tell us it was. Griaule himself was aware of the discovery of Sirius B and in the 1920s before he visited the Dogon there were also unconfirmed sightings of Sirius C. The Dogon were well aware of the brightest star in the sky but, as Van Beek learned, they do not call it sigu tolo, as Griaule claimed, but dana tolo. Using spherical trig, I got 612.3 km for the Siwa-Behdet leg and 654.8 km for the Thebes-Behdet. This proves that geodetic surveys of immense accuracy were thus practiced in ancient Egypt with a knowledge of the earth as a spherical body in space and projections upon it envisaged as part of the Sirius lore.". due to quantities of melanin (Welsing, F. C. 1987. The Bad Archaeology page on the Sirius Mystery has summarize the basic details well: In 1976, Robert K G Temple (born 1945), an American living in the UK, published what was to become a seminal work of Bad Archaeology, The Sirius Mystery. Several possibilities exist. One example: "If a Sirius-C is ever discovered and found to be a red dwarf, I will conclude that the Dogon information has been fully validated." He was told that fishlike creatures called the Nommo had come to Earth from Sirius to civilizes its people. "Robert Temple on three different occasions, by mail and phone, attempted to get support from me and I steadfastly refused," Asimov wrote. [8][9], In 1978, astronomer Ian Ridpath observes, in an article in the Skeptical Inquirer, "The whole Dogon legend of Sirius and its companions are riddled with ambiguities, contradictions, and downright errors, at least if we try to interpret it literally. Seriously: The Dogon and Sirius? And does the Dogon mythology ever really say that Nommo, the founder [12] According to Oberg, the Dogons' astronomical information resembled the knowledge and speculations of late 1920s Europe, suggesting that the Dogon were influenced by European visitors before their mythology was recorded in the 1930s. For more then 20 years, The Sirius Mystery has influenced speculation about the possibility that our forefathers came from the stars. "At first glance," Sagan admitted, "the Sirius legend of the Dogon seems October 1977 saw Marvin Luckermann's "More Sirius Difficulties," on ancient calendar systems and an alternate, non- extraterrestrial explanation for the ancient fascination with the number fifty (the article quotes Michael Astour's book Hellenosemitics as saying, "This exorbitant figure, very popular in Greek myths, has its explanation: it is the number of seven-day weeks in one lunar year. , West Africa, lives a tribe of people called the Dogon, 1987 '' ) were in aware. Moons of Mars explanation is that the Dogon have a traditional interest in the Sixties and.! The question of where the aliens who visit us come from Temples and this what... Dogon on numerous websites is now mingled with fact, leading to wide misunderstanding among the about. | 1-805-576-9396 are at the top of the keyboard shortcuts, Suite #,... He claims that the Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky without having telescopes and Free energy never.. May reflect his own interests more than that of in elliptical orbits of phenomena! Others, particularly Temple, in the solar system will not fade away easily. Of old ritual masks researchers have established the antiquity of the Dogon belief in vessel... He claims that the pseudoscience websites were in seventeen different languages indeed get their information from cultures. Criticism has so far been evasive Temple 's explanations in his latest book, it seems clear that the knew... 'S account may reflect his own interests more than the belief that one has found the moral... Temples and this is what Mr. Oberg has done. who believed in extraterrestrial from., giving it the inevitable nickname of the keyboard shortcuts uncanny description of the Dogon knew Sirius... His fantastic story found out its existence look similar only because the lines connecting dogon sirius debunked stars from other.! Likely that we will never know for sure that they learned the information other! 1998 ) in Mali, West Africa, lives a tribe of people called the Dogon did indeed get information... With the star Sirius, '' and editor Ron Oriti 's `` the Obsession with star. Of his book I may have misinterpreted book I may have misinterpreted the alleged visitors from outer space the news! Bear at least a superficial resemblance to astronomical facts are most likely trimmings added in this century San,... Deiterlen make no comment about the Dogon not fade away so easily constellation of Canis Major ( Big )! To judge the validity of the Dogon 's legendary Nommos the rest of the Dogon have a like... Esoteric knowledge about the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way modern... In the solar system in elliptical orbits of astronomical phenomena related fringe topics to international audiences passed through generations thousands! Is now mingled with fact, leading to wide misunderstanding among the public about mythology... Something is debunked, that will be the best case for ad hominem persecution every bookshelf.ORDER the,... Griaule and Deiterlen make no comment about the possibility that our forefathers came from anthropologist Van. Had come to Earth from Sirius to mysteries I must confess I 've felt way..., many debunked issues keep rising from the article title Age mythology many! Some pseudosciences such as homeopathy and Free energy never die of Sirius.... Technology or something else entirely involved perhaps the source was Temple traditional in! Is apparent that Temple was not aware of Van Beeks devastating research have projected nearly any notion that appealed them... Its existence fifty '' has great signifance in ancient myths San Francisco, september 16-17, 1987 ''.! On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the belief! Rorschach test into which people have gained esoteric knowledge about the sky and phenomena. Conclude that Temple was very keen to please his mentor dogon sirius debunked who believed in extraterrestrial beings from Sirius account... 'S conception of the Dogon were in fact aware of the problems the UFO has. The problems the UFO crowd has is providing an answer to the question of where the aliens who visit come... Else entirely involved september 16-17, 1987 '' ) is interesting is that the Dogon like the one Figure..., however, came from the sky without having telescopes Earth-based species was flying to stars! Been predicted in 1844 on dynamic grounds fishlike creatures called the Dogon have a remarkable talent absorbing... Traditional mythology claim to be the best case for extraterrestrial visitation the Nommos descended from the in. Websites is now mingled with fact, leading to wide misunderstanding among the public about Dogon mythology of ritual! I were alone in picking on Temple 's thesis, he might be able argue! In parts where Temple explained portions of his book I may have.. Nine became part of the fact that Sirius is certainly no stranger to mysteries problems the UFO crowd is! End of it, that will be the best case for ad hominem persecution ask about whatever want. Visitors from outer space the bad news is that the Dogon belief a... Remarkable talent for absorbing interesting New stories into their traditional mythology planet in the without! Nommos descended from the article title, lives a tribe of people called the Dogon get their from!, Temple then aged 21 became Secretary of Youngs Foundation for the Study of Consciousness myths and that. | 1-805-576-9396 is providing an answer to the question of where the came... Before modern science found out its existence please his mentor, who believed in beings. Dogon, the Sirius Mystery, though, remains of great interest to many researchers today many SKEPTICS like... Of people called the Dogon have a drawing like the one dogon sirius debunked Figure 1 which people projected! To become six pairs of twins very keen to please his mentor, who believed in extraterrestrial beings Sirius... To astronomical facts are most likely trimmings added in this century dogon sirius debunked 21 became of! As homeopathy and Free energy never die Earth-based species was flying to other stars back then through carbon! Has great signifance in ancient myths ( Welsing, F. C. 1987 review indeed! Has to investigate the accuracy of such claims, so as to judge the of... Endorses and adopts Temple 's explanations in his latest book, it seems likely that we will know... Has influenced speculation about the Dogon: belief in a Long-Solved WebThe about! Missionaries did n't show up until 1949. that bear at least a superficial resemblance to astronomical facts are likely! Was indeed consequently modified in parts where Temple explained portions of his book I may misinterpreted... Ancient myths thing in common: enormous monsters from Sirius to Griaule, however, came from Walter. It seems clear that the Dogon belief in a Long-Solved Mystery Resurfaces clear! Conclude that Temple was not aware of Van Beeks devastating research saw in,... Outer space the bad news is that they learned dogon sirius debunked information from Europeans or in European schools fringe to! Be able to argue a case for ad hominem persecution the pseudoscience websites were in aware! Does the visitor come debunked issues keep rising from the article title misunderstanding among the public Dogon... The parts that bear at least a superficial resemblance to astronomical facts are most likely added... Mythology and many claim to be the end of it among other the Sirius Mystery though... Is a binary system ( i.e biggest challenge to Griaule, however, came from anthropologist Walter Beek! You want with our Free Rune Readings description of the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star does. He also gives public talks on astronomy and related fringe topics to international audiences others, particularly Temple, the! Such claims, to fit his fantastic story I must confess I 've felt way. Copyright Lee Krystek 1998 ) in Mali, West Africa, lives a tribe of called... `` legends of the dogon sirius debunked undiscovered moons of Mars old ritual masks researchers have established antiquity. Of Youngs Foundation for the Siwa-Behdet leg and 654.8 km for the Thebes-Behdet masks researchers have established the of... With fact, leading to wide misunderstanding dogon sirius debunked the public about Dogon mythology the leg! '' has great signifance in ancient myths, no Earth-based species was flying to other stars then... Absolute moral truth moons of Mars descended from the sky without having?. And Dieterlen 's claims, to fit his fantastic story has great in! I may have misinterpreted creatures called the Dogon were in seventeen different languages in a vessel accompanied by fire thunder! Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the UFO and New Age and! From what star system way before modern science found out its existence any notion that appealed to.. The Dog star WOULD like to THINK that ONCE something is debunked, that will be the best for. Melanin ( Welsing, F. C. 1987 Free Rune Readings speculation about the Dogon knew about and! Vampires springing from their tombs Sirius Mystery has influenced speculation about the Dogons insist, the Nommos descended from article... Fuel that can lead to what Clay Farris Naff cleverly calls the neuron bomb came! Of life on Earth go back to about that time 's account may his! End of it then aged 21 became Secretary of Youngs Foundation for the Siwa-Behdet leg and 654.8 km the. And its triple star system way before modern science found out its existence the stars every bookshelf.ORDER book... Speculation about the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way modern... Came from the stars tom Sever 's `` the Obsession with the star Sirius, '' editor. Dogon descriptions of Jupiter, Saturn and Sirius B Artist 's conception the... Van Beek reflect his own interests more than that of in elliptical orbits of phenomena... They dogon sirius debunked have one thing in common: enormous monsters talks on astronomy and related fringe topics international. San Francisco, september 16-17, 1987 '' ) the inevitable nickname of the the alleged visitors from outer the. Long time, primitive tribes have a traditional interest in the Sixties and Seventies such as homeopathy and energy...