Ill continue to go by the book until such time as the rules change, or I wish to no longer fly. Simply having an assault on record does not by itself result in denial. Just waht we need more busybodys like you who cant mind their own business. Seems arbitrary to me. However, the general health standards to meet a drivers license requirement would seem to be a good screening source to id potential problems of health. First, if youve not taken a disqualifying medication for greater than 90 days, you can potentially argue to the FAA that your underlying diagnosis was not accurate to begin with. How many of you have had an enforcement action for a medical violation? If the FAA is lieing why should we worry about non-commercial pilots? Perhaps most problematic is that these medications are disqualifying in and of themselves. Please type or print legibly and remember to sign and date the request. Our fact-checkers review each article to ensure that all the information presented is accurate, relevant and up-to-date. its the government way. I am not sure whether the doctors are always correct or what specifically they are looking for to justify one pilot is medically fit while another is unfit. Try walking in my shoes and you will not agree with that statement. It is so easy for those not flying professionally to prescribe stricter rules for those that do. I was just having so much fun and I didnt realize just how difficult it was going to be. Your email address will not be published. Again, Im not arguing against the need for medical certification, but the process needs some serious streamlining. I am working with a private party who specializes in this sort of thing and he cant really give me definitive answers either; just educated opinion and guidance. So if there is cause, e.g a call to the FAA's hotline, an investigation will occur, and these will be seen and rather quickly. Remember that most pilots who have lost their medicals because they lied are probably not around here to talk about it. Good Luck. Now compare the above tabulation with: GA total deaths 400 It is none of their business. I just recently got my Cat 1 medical, and honestly the doctor is pretty thorough when it comes to examining his patient, everything from blood pressure to ECG. A large gray area separates these two extremes, however. Two years later fifty percent of the same Medical Board had differences of opinion, and being naturally frustrated I decided to visit UK, and was told by specialists there that systolic heart murmur does not prevent me from flying. There, see you did lie on your medical didnt you. Do You Need A PHD To Be A Medical Scientist? It does happen. Here is my suggestion: Expand the gross weight of light sport airplanes to something like 1800 pounds. I will follow that up with a word of warning. Now that I have no further problems I have to take an Awake and Alert test annually. How did the terrorists that crashed into the twin towers pass a medical that I failed for COUNSELING??! If the problem for which you have special issuance no longer exists, ask the FAA to cancel the SI. He was the author of numerous books, including. He was flying with ryanair and was due to move to emirates. But with such a vague statement, you can see why many pilots may unintentionally get themselves into trouble. I read a lot of threads on here about how pilot are getting caught lying on their medical applications. We know that the incidence of major depression in the general population is 10%. whether, in their life, have they been diagnosed with, had, or presently have a history of ADHD. Read from the question directly above the one you linked to: Long-standing FAA regulation, 61.53, prohibits all pilotsthose who are required to hold airman medical certificates and those who are notfrom exercising privileges during periods of medical deficiency. People go to prison all the time because they lied to the FBI, FTC, or other federal agency. I was always amazed at the high volume the Captains required. Water under the bridge now 19 years later. You can ask the Civil Aerospace Medical Institute for statistics on fatalities in which medical conditions were either the direct cause or a contributing factor. If you cant pass the physical you need to find another way to fly. Im due for a flight medical soon. Pedestrian deaths 5300 13. I say that based on the relative numbers discussed above. In the end, it all worked out, but I was frustrated about having to locate records from retired doctors across the country-all because a desk bureaucrat figured they knew more about my health than 3 doctors who had recently examined me with aviation in mind. At a certain point there is the issue of freedom vs safety. Now, prostate cancer several years in the past with normal PSAs now is not a hindrance and the AME is instructed to issue the medical certificate. Because they can longer fly. Each time the Dr. hit the switch, my friend kicked me under the table and I could respond that I had heard the tone in the headset as required. I have informed my regular doctor to please clear with me anything they might write in my record, as it could affect my FAA medical. I am all in favour of your own doctors certificate of good health. About a week before I was suppose to be soloed I went for my medical and was told by my AME that I cant fly because I take adderal. Taint worth messing up folks. She rekindled an unpursued interest I buried over 30 years ago when we got married and started having children. Gets Weekends Off . Indeed, in 2000 the Aeromedical Certification Division granted twice as many 'special issuance' certificates to pilots who had a significant medical condition, like coronary heart disease, a valve implant, a pacemaker, or alcoholism, as it did 10 years earlier. Its only a matter of time. I did years later and got totally cleared. Mr. Diabetes can still legally fly as a sport pilot. Just do want everyone does to get into the military hide the truth. '[T]here is probably some justification for that,' he acknowledged in a 1998 interview, noting that the FAA is 'extremely conservative' when it comes to medical matters. speaks to mental disorders of any sort. It goes on to give examples of depression, anxiety, etc. The FAA typically expects applicants to also identify at question 18m. Even when telling the truth the FAA doesnt give the AME the power to decide. Office hours M-F 8:30am - 5:00pmOur Privacy I was then a County Police Officer for 21 years. Now then, back to your question do pilots lie about medical conditions to their AME naaaaaaah! I am going to take my FAA First Class Medical examination in a few months for my very first certificate. Yeah that is what I have been hearing. Question:Do you think most pilots fib on applications for medical certificates? How come the standards are so different now? Regardless of whether or not you would get caught, a better question to ask is why would you try to get away with it? That resulted in the rejection of my 2010 medical! Make no mistake: Form 8500-8 is a legal instrument, unlike many other documents. I was better off lying. Do you need to have 20/20 vision to be a pilot? People, in general, are in better health than they were 20-30 years ago, largely by not smoking, watching their weight, eating less fatty foods, etc. Now Ive been unemployed for a couple months and who knows how long before some beaurucrat decides to actually look at my file snd say ok. Ive followed all the steps they dictated,all my tests and results are right on but because they wont simply look and see that Ive followed thrie rules and was honest,Im looking at becoming a burden to the system and living on public assistance until I get my medical back. You wouldn't report your dad or grandpa if he had a serious medical condition that could endanger his passengers and he was lying about it? Furthermore, any standard of medical concern for pilots is lost because it allows the FAA to turn a blind eye to a medical condition. There are more boating accident deaths (650 or so), motorcycle deaths (4500), automobile (35,000). I did not disclose my name or address when I created this account. If your AME does not spot anything on your physical exam, you have a clean driving record and you have never served in the military, chances are that the FAA will not question the information you submit in MedXPress. Because the measures necessary to achieve it would make life intolerable dull and stifling. Usually, that period of time is 60 days. Friend of mine had a partner in his business who owned a beautiful Cessna 182. Its just not opening an unnecessary can of worms. If you have determined that you are not healthy enough to fly sport, then you have done exactly what the Sport program is intended to do; leave the decision to the pilot. I do believe all of the ideas youve presented for your post. So, the medical certification process has greatly reduced my joy. will most definitely warrant deferral by the AME and evaluation of your eligibility for a medical certificate by the FAA. Signed, RN/PPSEL/IFR. Is being illiterate a bar to being a pilot conquer? then are able to re-apply. Be careful that if you have seen your doctor and are responding yes to question 19 and your doctor diagnosed you with ADHD (or suggested that you had ADHD), you will also likely need to respond yes to question 18m. I showed him on the form. maybe for some people want or need to lie, I jus cant do that..ur only foolin urself..I wud feel better knowin Im ok,,by bein checked..by doc,least bp anyway..if I dont feel good to drive then I wouldnt feel good to fly either..i know first hand,retired truck driver,been there done that,also their silent killers.pays to be checked by ur own doc..have idea where u stand medically.. get off fried foods n dont smoke is a BIG HELP..when I dont lie I feel better bout it too. 11-06-2013, 09:45 AM #7 ackattacker. And the Medical Flight Test needs to be taken only once and the SODA is good indefinitely. But knowing that the FAA has little humor, we all put no. They, and AOPA, worked with me to get it corrected. One correction that I expect an AME to know if you have a condition that you KNOW will result in a medical denial, youre not qualified to fly sport. ASMEL, CFII, AME, Hi, Im currently a student pilot I finally saved up the money to go after my dream. My ex hubby did it yearly. Since I asked to have myself tested for apnea, and found it was a problem, and now use a Constant Positive Air Pressure (CPAP) machine, FAA dogs me annually. I hope you realize a world that had perfect safety would be one not worth living in. Has anyone seen that data? But, it was not the fault of the FAA, it was mine for not verifying the doctors statement before submitting it. I see a lack of evidence that this saves lives. I took medication for years, before I decided I didn't like and chose to stop taking meds (with my parents). I think its a very poor decision to falsify your medical. You are there to take away joy and livelihood. I have been flying for 39 years and professionally since I was 18. So at least the medical makes we go for a check up. Both asked for, and received, removal of their Special Issuance. For pilots with health problems that aren't debilitating but possibly disqualifying, 'fessing up on the application for a third class medical certificate can be a busted-if-you-do, busted-if-you-don't proposition. Ive no choice but be truthfull,but I am sure Ive flown with other pilots who are afraid of admitting or just dont admit that they are not fit to fly themselves or their passengers safely.Does that ache youve been noticing or even worse ignoring mean something? Governmental overkill? So do we really want 10+% of our commercial pilots to be flying with untreated major depressive disorders? My ex lied and never mentioned it. Irs Data Book, 2020. chances of getting caught lying on faa medical one of the medications used treat! Lets analyze how you got to a denial and what can be done to appeal the denial. If you don't disclose it the likelihood that they find out about it are pretty slim, though. That may boost your chances of passing the exam or minimizing delays on the FAA's end. Lie and get caught, you will lose your ticket, get fined, and possibly go to jail. Like driving big trucks and boats have no such pseudo-medical crap. Returning home, the Civil Aviation Medical Board cleared me for flying. Special Issuance medical exams can cost more. The FAA has created an atmosphere that not only encourages problems to go unchecked and unreported, but actually makes some of those problems worse by discouraging pilots from addressing them, instead allowing them to fester. So why are private pilots singled out for this rediculous harrassment ? They have little to do but think up new restrictions, all under the banner of safety. If its temporary, shaddup about it. Im older now and have some typical late 40s health issues. I hope the FAA box didnt kill more. He issued my medical with a waiver. Fly over open country and probably be able to put the plane down in a field if there were trouble but the FAA has a BIG resounding NO for that. The FAA requires applicants with a diagnosis of epilepsy to be seizure-free for 10 years without medication before being considered for a medical certificate. Neither IFA, nor Paul Engstrom assume any responsibility or liability for events that occur due to actions you or others on your behalf take based on the information given in this article. If the FAA finds out that you failed to disclose something that you should have disclosed, not only does it mean that you can lose your license, but you may also face a hefty fine or even criminal prosecution. Told the truth, The FAA took my license. It is already hard enough to convince the FAA that you are healthy enough to fly after dealing with lifes curve balls. This is very disturbing to say the least, why bother imposing rules, laws or the like if there is no punishment implemented??? Ultimately, a FAA medical denial for ADHD is almost never the end of the road for an airman. Contact an aviation medical examiner (AME) early if you have doubts or questions. It sometimes gets people injured and sometimes gets people killed. TO LOW TO BAIL SO HAD TO TO FLY IT DOWN . Once set up by politicians, these agencies rule by fiat, for which there is no recourse. The application states once hired you must obtain a class 2 medical cert You get caught lying on a medical, they'll do a lot more than just bust your balls. Reply. Alternatively, upon 90-days of discontinuation of medication, you can potentially undergo the requested neuropsychological testing prescribed by the FAA. It was a more difficult process than if I had done it 20 years prior. Telling the truth in MedXPress is clearly the right thing to do, but that is not what this article is about. For those who fly for a living, YOU are the natural enemy doctor. Wouldnt tell you if I had a peg leg and a glass eye. Some records reviewer in OKC can not guarantee those in my aircraft a safe journey only I can do that. It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. If the FAA ever decides to search to see if he is taking any prescription medications (which they dont do often, but they have the ability to do), they will most likely pull his medical permanently for falsification. The FAA revised 61.53 to include under this prohibition sport pilots who use a current and valid U.S. drivers license as medical qualification.. One of the greatest fears among aspiring and qualified pilots is not being issued or losing their medical certificate. At 60 years of age you do not want to become an airline pilot you just want to be able to go up fly around and come back again. to get it straightened out. I am hoping that they do the right thing when it comes to my health assessment. If your application passes AMCDs scrutiny, the certificate your AME issued will remain valid for a period of time determined by your age and the type of certificate you applied for. During an FAA medical, a urine test will take place that checks sugars and protein levels. However, if you do get caught, at best you will lose your license. Im applying for a job where they train you to be a helicopter pilot. You can be fined up to $250,000 and jailed for five years for lying to the federal government. The guy who is lying about hypertension is making a huge mistake. What the FAA is looking for are patterns of behavior that suggest pathological conditions that may lead to gross negligence or unsafe decisions regarding flying. You miss the point. The system does work though. | site designed by. Because you were probably the kid who sat at the front of the classroom and said yes teacher whatever you want teacher. With a second class medical, itll be 12 calendar months, and if you start with the third class medical, itll be for 24 calendar months. G E King, Such law, whether it be the Prohibition of Alcohol, a tea tax or 3rd class medical requirements, will be seen only as an assault upon the freedom of those governed, designed solely to enhance the authority of its issuing agency through intimidation. Insurance companies now have a way out of paying the claim and if there were passengers or other property damage involved now lawyers get involvedsomething to think about! Others accept what the agency is trying to do'protect everyone's best interests'and play by its less-than-perfect rules. With holding important information. Obviously, the Veterans Administration and the military are still struggling to understand PTSD and have been dropping the ball for 50 years. Im not dumb enough to eat a big meal then jump right into a plane for the flight back unless it is one with a toilet and someone else is flying! Your family and friends consider you more important than any flying you may do. On the subject of medical self certification, read the announcement by the AOPA and the EAA. Anymore stringent than the First Class Medical is now would end up grounding many older pilots. Ultimately, if you have a condition that you know will result in denial, become a sport pilot. Multiple assaults or domestic convictions might indicate some psychiatric disturbance that requires looking into. I would respect them more if they screened for problems and helped people cure them, rather than go over the hill with a knee jerk reaction. A separate authorization request is required for each record released to any third party (physician, insurance company, employer, etc.) Pilot medicals are in the news again, with a proposal by EAA and AOPA to let more pilots use a drivers license for their medical. The 8500-8 of necessity must be brief and it is very difficult to get authorization to change it. Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. So please just be honest you they are gonna find out about one day or another just like the case out in California back in 2005 for pilots lying about question 18y Medical disability benefits and many of them were in legal trouble. FAA Current Detailed Clinical Progress Notes. If this is a recurrent problem, getting a class 3 medical can be difficult. My first flightdoctor told me he was very happy about having pilots as clients. If they have any concerns about your eligibility to hold a medical certificate, AMEs can also deny your application or defer your certification to the FAA for further review. They are actually almost the same as for Third Class. But the feds harass pilots, not drivers, because they can get away with it with pilots but not with drivers. What Dickie did was tell on someone for lying. When reading many aviation magazines and articles it seems likely that most accidents are a result of lack of proficiency rather than due to medical issues. We can never win with you, only lose. It was OK to fly without government harassment. No problem there both were on the approved list (most are). What does this mean? Im OK now, sleep with a CPAP machine. There is no such thing as a good faith mistake. Google "Operation Safe Pilot." In a blatant violation of the privacy act of 1974 as amended, the FAA, DOT Inspector General, and SSA Inspector General, conducted an illegal database match looking for common personally identifying information (names and/or social security numbers) in the FAA medical certificate database and the SSA Title 2 and Title 16 disability databases of 45,000 Northern . Im sorry to hear about your bad experience. The bottom line is,if you cant be truthfull to yourself,you cant be truthfull at all. My first experience with an AMI was when I applied for a job with the government and was required to take a physical exam. Withholding a medical certificate by the FAA for long periods of time while (somewhat silly in many instances) paperwork is completed does not help with the proficiency issue. Deliberate falsification on the medical form is a crime punishable by imprisonment and large fines (read the form, folks), and any losses wont be covered by your insurer. I would like to see how many incidents of NOT seeking medical attention, due to knowing that the FAA will pull their ticket, have led to problems. Keep in mind that the FAA receives something like 430,000 8500-8 each year. Yeah thought so. In fact he asked me where did I see that I could make that attachment. The FAA gives final denial to only 0.01% of applications. I know there are very experienced Senior AMEs out there who may have more influence with a phone call to Oklahoma City. Would I report this or any depression on the 8500-8? Duuuuuuuuuh do fat babies fart? BINGO! Note, denial is different from deferral. If after that the FAA denied your application, you can seek reconsideration of that denial by making a few substantive arguments. PERIOD. Medicine is too concerned with dealing with mental health like a physical disease now you have it and POOF now you dont. As statistics show flying is considerably safer than any land based carrier. I was diagnosed with PTSD from my service in the infantry Vietnam in 1968/1969 and have received counseling for it. We should not be subjected to this inquisitional questionnaire in the first place. We report, you decipher. Holy hell! Many pilots have waited months or years for their medical certificates because each new record they provide to justify their medical certificate eligibility reveals another ailment they did not disclose before. Gordon, It doesnt seem to exhibit much intelligence to uselessly act excited after the fact instead of before. no? By the way a friend of mine died 2 hours after acquiring his 2nd class medical. For example, what if one is tired or snores. Some of us just have problems in our lives that are difficult to deal with. The absurdity of these medicals resides in the tiny number of casualties from medical incapacitation, compared to most other activities requiring no medical. The only truthful answer is yes, most every night. The FAA will then require more detailed medical information before they can determine if you qualify for a medical certificate. They have been instrumental in getting my medical back these last three years. His career was essentially over with that arrest and he killed himself because of it. Theyre just scared something is going to happen in the air. Ill continue to go by the book until such time as the rules change, or I wish to no longer fly. The relative numbers of fatalities in all of General Aviation (GA) vs those from other causes. If anyone cares to share their thoughts or any advice I would appreciate hearing from you. What Are the Chances of Getting Caught Lying on an FAA Medical? With $ 20.00 USD anything is possible down there and then just let the FAA go through hoops to find my one in a million medicals just to disqualify and pull my medicalwhich is fake after allwill give them and me something to do till I can think of some other ways to pass the time with the all mighty FAA. Also why does your local AME put something on your report and call it insignificant but 6 months later the FAA makes a federal case of it and wants more tests for this insignificant thing. There is a good chance you can hide some minor medical problems or even some major ones that you recovered from years ago. It sure would eliminate a lot of phone calls and digging through files for me. No. I do not lie on my medical, but would love to be able to fly a 172 using a drivers licence in lieu of a class III medical. The FAA medical process makes it nearly impossible to comply with completely. By now most of you know there are way too many federal employees standing around over paid and coming up with way too many regulations to try and justify their job. Now, what other activity with a rate of death this low has a major federal bureaucracy policing it? They always do it under the banner of safety. Obviously, many do. Of course people lie on the application, they want the medical so they can keep flying. He went on to training pilots via simulators. He as a jet driver and as the sole pilot that might have been a problem during the flight he was scheduled for the next day. Before treatment, when I was sleepy, FAA wasnt concerned. On the part of most pilots here its not lying. It can also ensure you keep flying for years to come. I was so desperate to lower the volume that I installed a volume control in my own headset so I would not be blasted out of my seat. What Are the Chances of and Penalties for Getting Caught Lying on an FAA Medical? By logging into your account, you agree to our. We display medical information based on FAAs Civil Aerospace Medical Institute (CAMI) medical records. The FAA has panels of civilian medical experts for each speciality who meet regularly to review the FAA medical regulations and recommend changes based on new research. The AME might be required to defer your Medical Certificate, but you will be 3-4 months ahead by having the AME submit your medical information along with the 8500-8 rather than waiting for the FAA to ask for the information. Lie, definitely not. Beyond criminal penalties and keeping your pilots license, there are many other reasons to be forthright with your FAA Aviation Medical Examiner (AME), but for now just as a thought experiment consider that you choose to falsify your medical certificate application. I was told at a young age I could not fly with one eye, but latter in life I found out I could with a medical waver. I just wonder why? Of course they do. 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