Inside" (the low-post scorer, Baylor) and "Mr. Outside" (the long-distance shooter, West). First up is Oscar Robertson's 1961 Fleer rookie card which is one of the keys to the iconic set and one of the most valuable basketball cards in general.. After a big loss, the Wests would drive home and she would try to console him, but West would say "get out" at the home porch and drive awayan experience that "killed" her as a wife. The Knicks' Walt Frazier is stopped by Lakers center Wilt Chamberlain (13) as Jerry West (44) drives around them for a score in first quarter of an NBA finals game on April 26, 1972. [75] Also, on November 26, 2005, his number 44 became the first basketball number to be retired by West Virginia University and on February 17, 2007, a bronze statue created by sculptor Jamie Lester was installed outside of the WVU Coliseum. [35] The 52 wins were accumulated despite West playing only 51 regular season games due to injury[22] and scoring 26.3 points, the lowest average since his rookie year: after being a First-Teamer for six times en bloc, he only made the All-NBA Second Team. "[86], In 2011, West and bestselling author Jonathan Coleman wrote a memoir entitled West by West: My Charmed, Tormented Life. West is still regarded as one of the best pure scorers in NBA history. [34] Veteran coach Fred Schaus retired, and Butch Van Breda Kolff took over; under his reign, the Lakers won 52 games in the 196768 NBA season in their first season in The Forum. Wests long wait had ended. NEW: Sample Searches for learning more about the power and flexibility of Stathead. This includes rookie cards for Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, Elgin Baylor and Len Wilkens (misspelled Wilkins). And his 6,238 career assists (6.7 apg) rank among the best ever. It seems that tons of viewers from certain generations uniformly avoid the contemporary NBA in a conscious fashion. As his line-drive jumper headed for nothing but net, he would run off the court, clapping his hands, never looking back because it was a sure thing. Biography. Jerry West was an All-NBA performer in 12 of his seasons. [28] West spectacularly took over Baylor's leading role, as he scored 49 points and willed the shocked Lakers to the win. Robertsons career arc is fairly similar. And, you know, Oscar said, You right, Jerry.'. I will say that Oscar fits the 'all around' definition better - he was *almost* as good at scoring as Jerry although not quite matching up to West's peak scoring abilities, he was a better rebounder and also a better passer (both by . "Who else would you want to take it but Kobe?" [84] His first wife Martha Kane recalled that her husband often had difficulties opening up to her. [43] L.A. and N.Y. split the first two games, with both games respectively decided by centers Reed and the still-hobbling Chamberlain. ", The NBA had only eight teams in 1960 when West and Robertson were rookies. NBA Twitter lauds the All-Star for joining the elite company of LeBron James and Luka Doncic in a special feat. After losing Elgin Baylor to an Achilles tendon rupture that effectively ended his career, West himself injured his knee and was out for the season; the short-handed Lakers lost the Western Conference Finals in five games to the championship-bound Milwaukee Bucks, who were led by freshly-crowned Most Valuable Player Lew Alcindor (later known as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar) and veteran Hall-of-Fame guard Oscar Robertson. Your email address will not be published. Thomas said on an older edition of NBA TVs Open Court that he had the privilege of sharing a panel with Jerry West and Oscar Robertson. He eventually chose to stay in his home state and attend West Virginia University (WVU), located in Morgantown. Theres a reason the leagues logo is the Los Angeles Lakers legends silhouette. Moreover, before Johnson entered the NBA, West and Oscar "The Big O" Robertson were considered the greatest guards in league history, not to mention that West was the one who received more respect and love. 26 Feb 2023 06:03:55 [61] At age 69, West retired as a Grizzlies general manager in 2007 and turned over managing duties to Chris Wallace.[64]. Robertson named West among his top five. @Sen_JoeManchin, "Jerry West demands retraction of his 'cruel' portrayal in 'Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty', https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jerry_West&oldid=1141917828, Career statistics and player information from, This page was last edited on 27 February 2023, at 15:05. Moreover, half the battle is actually being on the court and so Robertsons better durability also gives him another slight edge in this close head-to-head matchup. Oscar Palmer Robertson (pron. [52] However, the Knicks took Games 2 and 3, and West strained both of his hamstrings: in Game 4, the shorthanded Lakers were no match for New York, and in Game 5, the valiant, but injured West and Hairston had miserable games, and despite Chamberlain scoring 23points and grabbing 21rebounds, the Lakers lost 10293 and the series. West averaged 46.3 points per game, a figure that is still an NBA record. During his 14-year playing career with the Los Angeles Lakers, West became synonymous with brilliant basketball. During an interview on HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel, West revealed that as a child he was the victim of physical abuse from his father and has suffered from depression ever since. In the Olympic basketball tournament, the USA definitely conquered Rome. He looks determined. Robertson was a broadcaster for CBS for the 1974-75 season. Both scored a ton. The championship was West's first-ever NBA title. It might have been even better had John Havlicek and Lenny Wilkins not been passed over in the selection process. All of these rookies except for Wilkens are also featured on the action cards. [79], West married his college sweetheart Martha Jane Kane in April 1960 in Morgantown;[80] they divorced in 1976. Boston won another NBA Finals matchup, prevailing in Game 7 at Boston Garden, 95-93. In 1960, Robertson was a member of the gold medal winning basketball team in the Rome Olympic Summer Games with fellow Hall of Famers Jerry West, Jerry Lucas and Walt Bellamy. However, he made the Second Team of the inaugural All-Defensive Team. His best opportunity for a title with the Royals came in 1962-1963, when they advanced to the Eastern Division Finals, but lost to the eventual champion Boston Celtics in seven games despite the Big Os 31.8 points, 13.0 rebounds, and 9.0 assists per game in the postseason. Very rarely was I satisfied with how I played. Winning bid: US $23.50 [ 10 bids] Shipping: $3.99 Standard . The following year he and Oscar Robertson led an extremely talented U.S. squad to a gold medal at the 1960 Olympic Games in Rome. [15] The Lakers won 60 games and reached the 1973 NBA Finals against the New York Knicks. In a generation defined mostly by big men, Jerry West and Oscar Robertson managed to stand out from the crop. [48] West himself contributed with 25.8points and led the league with a career-high 9.7assists per game. As a rookie, West would make the first of 14 straight All-Star teams by averaging 17.6 points (41.9% shooting), 7.7 rebounds, and 4.2 assists per game. He was taken as the Number 1 overall (territorial) pick by the Cincinnati Royals in the 1960 NBA Draft where he played for 10 seasons (1960-1970) before being traded to . When you feel that you're deceived you don't want any part of the organization that deceived you. He went on to average 14.8 points and 8.1 rebounds for six . In Game 2, Baltimore was unable to stop the Lakers guard, who scored 52 points, nearly half of L.A.'s total, in the 118115 win. Hence, every college game, every practice and every summer workout by 1958 became about the game within the game: winning at all costs, but also showing the world he could . As players on a perennial bridesmaid team, West and Baylor were frequently eclipsed by Chamberlain, Robertson and Bill Russell, who collectively won virtually every MVP during Wests and Baylors most productive years. Fourteen seasons, 25,192 points, 6,238 assists and 5,366 rebounds later, he had become one of the greatest players the game has ever seen. Oscar Robertson vs Dominique Wilkins The two go back quite a ways. The Lakers drafted him after the Cincinnati Royals drafted Oscar Robertson. [15] After ending the regular season with 49 wins, L.A. played the Baltimore Bullets in the first round of the 1965 NBA Playoffs, but then team captain Baylor suffered a career-threatening knee injury. During that time, West was the better scorer (27.0 to 25.7), but Robertson grabbed more rebounds (7.5 to 5.8) and averaged more assists (9.5 to 6.7) and also had slightly better shooting percentages. After helping the Golden State Warriors win the championship against the Cleveland Cavaliers, on June 14, 2017, West announced that he would go to the Los Angeles Clippers as an executive board member and consultant. Isiah Thomas potentially snubs Michael Jordan as he labeles The Flash as the best Chicago athlete. He then embarked on a 14-year career with the Los Angeles Lakers, and was the co-captain of the 1960 U.S. Olympic gold medal team, a squad that was inducted as a unit into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame in 2010. Jerry West is a legendary Lakers guard. [22], In the 196566 NBA season, West averaged a career-best 31.3points, along with 7.1rebounds and 6.1assists per game. [15] The Lakers won 46 games, and in the 1970 NBA Playoffs, they narrowly beat the Phoenix Suns in seven games and swept the Hawks in four, setting up the first NBA Finals between the Lakers and the rugged New York Knicks, led by Hall-of-Famers, such as Willis Reed, Dave DeBusschere, Bill Bradley, and Walt Frazier. Answer (1 of 15): I would Jerry West because he was on the All Defensive Team five times and Oscar was on none. Head to Head: Oscar Robertson vs. Jerry West. In fact, scoreboard keepers didnt introduce the concept of assists till after Bob Cousy revolutionized the PG position. Wilt Chamberlain talks about how his contemporaries Jerry West and co wouldn't pursue stats "None. For most of the game, the Lakers trailed, but West and Frank Selvy hit several clutch baskets and tied the game at 100. Before he was "The Logo" -- the model for the silhouette on every NBA player's jersey -- he was "Mr. He explained his decision with the desire for exploring something new: "After being a part of the Laker's success for so many years, I have always wondered how it would be to build a winning franchise that has not experienced much success. All videos are . During halftime of Sunday's All-Star Game, 45 members of the 75th Anniversary Team including Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar stood side by side on a circular stage in the middle of Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse. Answer (1 of 13): Big O * 65, 225 lbs, 69 wingspan, * was ball dominant and precise with his playmaking in his era like CP3 or Stockton, * shielded the ball from smaller guards with his backside like Magic, * had a high post game like Dirk with underrated pump fakes and footwork, * was . > Archive 75: Jerry West| 75 Stories: Jerry West. Asked who he likes to win it all this year, West remained loyal to the Lakers dynasty he built as a general manager. However, the Lakers and West came out on the losing end in eight of those nine Finals. "I would never bet against the Lakers," he said. On the most recent episode of his podcast, Simmons named (in order) his top 15 in the "Pantheon." Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Tim Duncan, Wilt Chamberlain, Kobe Bryant, Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, Hakeem Olajuwon . Much like Larry Bird and Magic Johnson in the 1980s, the careers of Oscar Robertson and Jerry West were closely intertwined and highlighted by many of the same contrasts between the two players, e.g. A smallish youth, West didnt make his junior high football, baseball or track teams. O as in the Only player to average a triple-double for a whole season. From the perspective of advanced metrics, Robertson also holds the edge in both Player Efficiency Rating (PER) and Wins-Shares. High 49F. Jerry West SG. Jerry West and Oscar Robertson defined the guard position for over a decade. [74] As a coach, West led the Lakers into three consecutive playoff campaigns, and then went on to win seven NBA championships as a general manager, building the 1980s Lakers dynasty under coach Pat Riley and players Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and James Worthy and the 2000s under coach Phil Jackson and players Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant. For some of Jerry West, Oscar Robertson and Elgin Baylors triple-doubles, youd think they had the worst game in the world: When Wilt Chamberlain explained how NBA basketball got diluted in quality over his lifetime, When will it be fair to name LaMelo Ball as the greatest Hornet ever!? Under his reign, Los Angeles won six championship rings. In overtime, West, however, sprained his left hand and missed all five of his shots, and the Knicks won 111108. He broke his nose at least nine times. West's NBA career was highly successful. But the experience itself was the most gratifying of all," he recalled. [26] The Celtics tied the series in Game 6 at three games apiece, and the teams headed to Boston for Game 7. In 1969, as in 1962, the Lakers led Boston after five games only to drop the last two contests. However, due to the dynastic dominance of the Boston Celtics, who won 10 NBA titles between 1959 and 1969, including eight straight from 1959 to 1966, both players would fall short of a ring time after time again until finally reaching the NBA pinnacle in the early 1970s. He averaged 27.0 points, 6.7 rebounds, and 5.8 rebounds for his career, making the Lakers one of the most relevant franchises in the league. His high-pitched voice earned him the nickname "Tweety Bird", and he spoke with such a thick Appalachian accent that his teammates also referred to him as "Zeke from Cabin Creek" (his nickname acknowledged his country roots, and his accent was so thick that he squeaked his nickname sheepishly "Zeek from Cab'n Creek"). Magic, Wilt, Jerry West, Shaquille O'Neal, and Kobe Bryant are some of the Laker greats, but Kareem was the best. The latter is a concept that has been derided as "a fancy word for you haven't done it yet. For his contributions, West won the NBA Executive of the Year Award twice, once as a Lakers manager (1995) and then as a Grizzlies manager (2004). Im surprised when the ball doesnt go into the hoop, West said toward the end of his career. He was an All-Star every year of his career and led Los Angeles to the NBA Finals nine times. [12] In Game 4, the guard scored 37 points and 18 assists, and the Lakers won. His first nickname, Zeke from Cabin Creek, was actually based on faulty information. Oscar Robertson weighs in as Russell Westbrook attempts to join the Big O's one-man club. should play. Although injured captain Elgin Baylor ended his career, the Lakers had a season for the ages. 1 select and West the . That was our goal.". Damian Lillard became the 4th player in NBA history with 200 points and 60 assists in a playoff series, joining LeBron James, Jerry West and Oscar Robertson. Robertson had a storied high school career (fun fact: his team lost in the 1954 basketball state semifinals in Indiana to eventual champions Milan, who were the basis for the classic 1986 movie Hoosiers), which culminated in him being named Indiana Mr. Basketball in 1956. He was also at the forefront of rebuilding the Lakers into championship shape by adding Shaquille ONeal as a free agent and trading for Kobe Bryant, who entered the NBA out of high school in 1996. The players are bigger and more athletic now. In Game 1, which Boston easily won, defensive Celtics guard K. C. Jones kept West to the only 26 points, and in Game 2, West scored 45 points, but Boston still won 129123. Inside) scoring nearly 35 ppg and West (Mr. He was the measuring stick for how a player. Unexpectedly, most of the coaches changed direction as suddenly as a team that just had the ball stolen at midcourt. As a 6-foot senior, West became the first prep player in state history to score 900 points in a season, averaging 32.2 points. But West committed costly turnovers and L.A. lost the game 108106 despite a triple-double of 42 points, 13 rebounds and 12 assists from West, who became the only recipient of the NBA Finals Most Valuable Player Award from the losing team. "I think the thing I most remember is that we won so easily ". West never thought he had been handed a burden, however. [15] As of 2011, West holds 12 WVU all-time records. It seems to bother the Big O more than West, this dulling of fans' memories of their glory days. The Big O at 6-5 was the first power guard, backing defenders down, never taking a 12-footer if a 10 was available, never a 10 if he could get an 8. Kareem said Oscar was better than Magic. An abundance of admiration, actually. To hear Jerry West and to see Jerry West talk about Oscar Robertson Ill never forget it. The USA had been the only country to win the gold medal since basketball was introduced at the Summer Games in Berlin, in 1936. One of the salient features that differentiate the 50s and 60s basketball from eras that came later is the lack of emphasis on stats. Winds SSW at 5 to 10 mph. Selvy then missed an open 8-foot shot which would have won the Lakers their first title. Oscar Robertson (1960-1974) Robertson, also known as the "Big O," is the only . Before that, the Oscar Robertson Rule was established in 1976, and the ABA-NBA merger allowed the NBA to expand for the 1976-77 season. Every bit West's equal was Baylor. [15] The NBA commented that the Lakers now had a potent one-two-punchwith "Mr. In three campaigns with West at the helm, the Lakers went 145-101 and returned to the playoffs after missing the postseason during Wests retirement. Indeed, Jerry West looked at Oscar Robertson and saw what he thought was the best player in the game. In this game, he now had scored 4,002 playoffpoints, which set an all-time NBA record. Robertsonwas on hand when the Rome Olympic champions were inducted at Springfield. Additionally, as President of the Players Association, he was involved in the landmark Robertson vs. National Basketball Association antitrust suit that led to reforms for the college draft and free agency rules, and also finally allowed the completion of the ABA-NBA merger to take place in 1976 (the suit was filed in 1970). Van Breda Kolff pejoratively called Chamberlain "The Load", and later complained that Chamberlain was egotistical, never respected him, too often slacked off in practice and focused too much on his statistics. [23] Baylor once commented: "Rumors are safe with you, Tweety Bird. Thus, after weighing their careers against each other in terms of statistics, achievements, and impact, the winner of this faceoff is: As always, vote for your choice and leave your thoughts and comments below. It was particularly frustrating because I was playing so poorly that the team overcame me. RELATED: Kobe's Final Game Was The Perfect Farewell. They edged the Detroit Pistons in the division semifinals but then lost to the St. Louis Hawks in the division finals. [59], After his coaching stint, West worked as a scout for three years before becoming general manager of the Lakers before the 198283 seasons. Oscar Robertson vs Jamaal Wilkes. 1 overall pick in the 1960 NBA Draft, with the Lakers selecting West immediately thereafter. From there, he played his college ball at the University of Cincinnati, where in his three seasons with the Bearcats, he won the scoring title each year, was named a 3x All-American and 3x College Player of the Year (the Player of the Year award is now called the Oscar Robertson Trophy), made the Final Four twice, compiled 10 triple-doubles (a staple of his pro career), and set 14 NCAA and 19 school records. 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